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07-May-08, 06:29 PM
|  | Reptile Junkie Subscriber | Join Date: May-08 Location: Gosford Age/Gender: 20  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by disasterpiece7.0  Not the same kind, that was a reticulated ( I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Either way, it's in Malaysia) The one on "life in cold blood" was an African rock python. The problem with eating people is not the size, but the way our shoulders are formed. the antelope has a gradual increase in size as the snake moves down it's body. Humans go fine until the shoulders, which protrude outwards suddenly. This means that the snake reaches that point and cannot open it's mouth to get around the shoulders. | Unless he ate him feet first!
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07-May-08, 06:39 PM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: sunny QLD | | | | I had a similar lot of photos emailed to me. The email i recieved was a hoax. They reckon the guy crawled inside the dead snakes body to look as if he had been eaten. HOWEVER, the guy looks much the same as the guy that was in my email!! I'll see if i can find it, and i'll post it here. As said before, huge snakes can not eat a human HEAD first, but if it were to start at the legs, it may be able to swallow the human whole. That most probably wont happen, as snakes start swallowing at the nose of the 'prey'. Either way, that poor snake was cut up!! Animals were here first, we should learn to live with them, not the other way round!!
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07-May-08, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilman Unless he ate him feet first! | No matter what, the snake still has to get passed the shoulders... it couldn't happen IMO
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07-May-08, 06:54 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: kellyville,sydney Age/Gender: 34 | | | | this photo has been around for ages,its not proven if it is real or just staged
there is a genuine case where a snake killled and tried to eat a man but it only got over his head,when it was discovered and shot by a policeman
that was in malayasia and it was a retic |
07-May-08, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trouble No matter what, the snake still has to get passed the shoulders... it couldn't happen IMO | Going feet first would solve the problem of the shoulders, as I said it's the sudden protrusion out from the head/neck that causes the problem, so the gradual increase going back up the body would be fine.
HOWEVER, The chance of a snake getting both feet together and keeping the legs straight whilst working it's way up is probably just as much of a problem as the shoulders, if not more.
Babies can and have been taken by snakes, as well as small children. I have heard that extremely large retics and anacondas can take small adolescent humans, and even adults. It may be possible that a very small petite human, more likely a women with narrower shoulders might be able to be swallowed, But I still doubt it. |
07-May-08, 07:51 PM
| | Reptile Junkie Subscriber | Join Date: May-08 Location: Gosford Age/Gender: 20 | | | Havent you ever seen the movie Anaconda?  |
07-May-08, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilman Havent you ever seen the movie Anaconda? | Good one mate lmao!!! |
07-May-08, 11:27 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Melbourne O>I>G>L Souly! | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by chad that is absolutely disgusting!
imagine eating your food with its clothes still on!
atleast he could have got undressed for the snake.
anyone know the story? | Yeah, I got told the story.........
This bloke bought himself some very good graphics software and .................................................. ..
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07-May-08, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by disasterpiece7.0 Going feet first would solve the problem of the shoulders, as I said it's the sudden protrusion out from the head/neck that causes the problem, so the gradual increase going back up the body would be fine.
HOWEVER, The chance of a snake getting both feet together and keeping the legs straight whilst working it's way up is probably just as much of a problem as the shoulders, if not more.
Babies can and have been taken by snakes, as well as small children. I have heard that extremely large retics and anacondas can take small adolescent humans, and even adults. It may be possible that a very small petite human, more likely a women with narrower shoulders might be able to be swallowed, But I still doubt it. | Well he could swallow me if he got both legs together BUT if he didn't he'd only get one leg down until he reached something that would make him regurgitate |
08-May-08, 12:17 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | | A snake that size wouldn't have a slightest problem eating an adult human. The "shoulders" bit is a bigger myth than the snake not being able to eat a person IMHO. Perhaps it is told to help little jungle kiddies sleep better at night or something The pressure exerted by one of these animals is similar to the weight of a school bus (and has been proven so) being placed on top of you....please tell me that it's not possible under that sort of weight for bones to be either crushed or severely dislodged  ......so whatta ya reckon??? Still not possible??  |
08-May-08, 12:38 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Syd Gender: | | | | I reckon it's for real , although I think it's a boy , not a man.
i just can't imagine a bunch of villagers going to such an eloborate effort for the 'benefit' of internet ( & other media ) consumers such as us. |
08-May-08, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by moosenoose A snake that size wouldn't have a slightest problem eating an adult human. The "shoulders" bit is a bigger myth than the snake not being able to eat a person IMHO. Perhaps it is told to help little jungle kiddies sleep better at night or something The pressure exerted by one of these animals is similar to the weight of a school bus (and has been proven so) being placed on top of you....please tell me that it's not possible under that sort of weight for bones to be either crushed or severely dislodged ......so whatta ya reckon??? Still not possible?? | I'm not sure about specifics (ie, school bus as opposed to any other bus ), but the pressure that a large python is capable of exerting is enormous. However, the snake never intentionally uses constriction as a means of crushing the bones and internal organs - asphyxiation is the cause of death in almost all cases.
I'm not sure what I think about the shoulders dealy, but I'd be inclined to think, imagining the way in which snakes work their way down the body, that it would be extremely difficult for a snake to expand its jaw from the width of the neck to the width of the shoulders. Pythons most often rely on the animal's own contours (hence a snake's instinct to swallow head first 9/10 times), using their teeth to work their way along the prey, their ligamentous jaw expanding as the body does, as opposed to a kind of muscular expansion of the jaw that would enable them to just slide over everything at once (such an action would result in enormous energy expenditure, and this is something ectotherms don't need).
I could be wrong though, snakes (and reptiles in general) manage some pretty extraordinary stuff. 2 things of which I am relatively sure, however: the snake is unlikely to swallow a person feet first (it's not their nature), and certainly not because they want to avoid the rapid change in width between the neck and the shoulders; a snake will assess prey on its size and vulnerability - generally not its shape.
The true test though - anyone want to sleep in the anaconda pit and let us know how it goes ? Take a polaroid for us
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08-May-08, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by africancichlidau Well he could swallow me if he got both legs together BUT if he didn't he'd only get one leg down until he reached something that would make him regurgitate | That mental picture makes me regurgitate   |
08-May-08, 08:17 AM
| | | | There are documented cases of African rock pythons eating people. It can happen. Usually sheepherders or people that wash clothes on the river edge. This is where the African rock python ambushes its prey. |
08-May-08, 09:03 AM
|  | Regular Member | | | | | the pics are definatley a hoax and have been around for a while. The sanke could not eat a person feet first as there is no real chance of getting both feet tightly together to get started. It would have started on one foot and then got stuck wehn it got up tot he groin.
Even if it did the impossible and started on both feet simultaneously the guys arms would be stretched upward , above the head, due to the swallowing process, wich they are not.
In Fact there is no way to swallow a person and end up with the person arms in that position.
Therer are also legititamte pics of a malaysian retic attempting to swallow a rubber plantation worker. In those pics the snake has the head swallowed and got stuck on theshoulders. The pics are genuine and the snake was killed, and the mans body retrieved.
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