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06-Aug-06, 07:39 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Wollongong Age/Gender: 36  | | | |
Sorry for the loss Pugsly .
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06-Aug-06, 07:45 PM
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yes, its a good thing you are doing here pugsly, very sad that it happened to your animal, but very insperational,(for lack of a better word) to show the pics of what over feeding can do. It will save lives for sure.
I applaud you.
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06-Aug-06, 07:47 PM
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Gee sorry mate, I've also heard its a good idea to feed rats/mice which are younger rather than older rodents which have stopped growing and therefore have higher fat deposits.
At least you've got some great pics to remember Milo by.
jordo
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06-Aug-06, 07:50 PM
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sorry to here that mate...........R.I.P.
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06-Aug-06, 07:51 PM
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Sorry to hear that Bro....
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06-Aug-06, 07:53 PM
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So sorry to hear of your loss, devestating!  but thanks for speaking out through your grief and for making us newbies aware of the risks of over feeding, its a valubale lesson we have all just learnt!
sorry once again, Shelby
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06-Aug-06, 08:25 PM
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I think once-a-year feeds are probably not a good idea either Pythoness, but adult snakes, especially boys, can be fed a reasonble sized meal every 4-6 weeks to keep their weight down. Most of my adults get fed just whenever I think of it, and not usually more than monthly in summer, if that.
Jamie.
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06-Aug-06, 08:25 PM
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Sorry for your loss Pugsly, I would be interested to hear what a vet said was the cause of death, could have been anything I suppose as it didn't look at all fat.
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06-Aug-06, 08:39 PM
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There was a very large amount of fat in the body cavity, and 5.5 feet at 18 months is way too big for it's age.
J.
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06-Aug-06, 08:42 PM
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06-Aug-06, 08:45 PM
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06-Aug-06, 08:46 PM
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You're not going to start twisting my words again are you Rob, you know what happened last time :wink:
I said the snake didn't look fat and for a Bredli it certainly doesn't from that photo. Quote: |
Originally Posted by TrueBlue  no fat boa, have another look.  |
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06-Aug-06, 08:52 PM
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I saw that snake at the mac herps show and it didnt look fat ... well not compared to my bredli anyway  . They have been on a massive diet for the last 6 months but they are still fat buggers.
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06-Aug-06, 08:54 PM
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i have a female bredli of the same age thats just 5 foot, and i barely feed her once a month now.
could you describe/take a pic of his viv? what substrate/furniture did you have in there etc?
sorry for your loss mate, absolutely terrible. but the best thing about it is that you learn from it, its a good learning curve and message to others.
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06-Aug-06, 08:59 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | RE: Re: RE: Size...
Bredli are a heavy bodied snakes, it doesn't look fat in that photo and although their is some fat in that photo it doesn't appear excessive. I have no axe to grind as I don't power feed and don't feel it necessary for me to support or criticise anyone who does. Those who belief it to be harmful always will and those who consider it acceptable equally always will.
There certainly seems to be a body of evidence to say that an obese ADULT snake is unhealthy but that is common sense, with fast growing healthy juveniles I would say the jury is still out but I am sure some will disagree as is their right.
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