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03-Apr-07, 11:28 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Up the Ral Ral Creek. S.A. | | | | Scales and Tails guy is very knowledgable as far as I know. They are not a "Pet Shop"! Only deal in Reptiles. Gavin has been breeding for at 20yrs or more, from what I've heard around the traps. Sells rats and mice for feeders(frozen). I would recommend him to all newcomers. Cheers Cheryl
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04-Apr-07, 06:46 AM
|  | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBredli  Last time i checked mice had fur too. Your vet is an idiot. | Mmmmmmm.........Rat fur is a course fur, whilst Mouse fur is soft. In Australia most (if not all) animals that naturally occur here with fur have soft fur; not course fur as our feeder rats do. Thus the theory goes soft furred animals would be better feeders as thats what our reps have been designed from evolution for here in Australia.
From memory thats the explanation the Vet gave me.
This vet is a very good Herp Vet here on the GCoast..the best herp vet other vets tell me and also Animal Parks and Herpers....so as different as he is at times and his ideas...he is not an Idiot.
Sooo...to get this thread back on track.
Serpentounge I know what your saying and thats what I always thought, but with this from the Vet Im questioning it a bit.
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Has anybody heard or had their herps getting intestinal blockages from Course Rat Fur?
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04-Apr-07, 06:58 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: sunshine coast QLD | | | | i feed mostly chicken and it is fine i spoke to simon stone and he used to feed everything chicken he stopped because it gives then a bit runnier poo and it makes a mess other than that he said it was a good meal for them i fine it quite nutritional and my snakes are very healthy |
04-Apr-07, 07:10 AM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | Can you guys quit the chicken talk and stop hijacking this thread please. There is a thread discussing nutrition elsewhere.
Has anybody heard or had their herps getting intestinal blockages from Course Rat Fur?
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04-Apr-07, 07:50 AM
|  | Mr Knee Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Wollongong Age/Gender: 36  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling Can you guys quit the chicken talk and stop hijacking this thread please. There is a thread discussing nutrition elsewhere.
Has anybody heard or had their herps getting intestinal blockages from Course Rat Fur? | Never heard of any snakes getting a blockage from rat fur , or any fur for that matter |
04-Apr-07, 07:55 AM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: Brisvagas | | | | I havnt' heard of it, nor has it happend to any of my snakes. Although I was told not to feed guinea pigs as there was way to much fur on them to digest? so in saying that I'm guessing possibly too much fur may be hard to digest for the snake?
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04-Apr-07, 07:58 AM
|  | Invert nut Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-05 Location: QLD Gender: | | | | i have never had any probs with feeding rats, on another note, allana, you dont have a spare male rat do you? mine died over night and would prefer new blood insted of using one of the bubs
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04-Apr-07, 08:05 AM
|  | Has Happy Herps.... Sponsor | Join Date: Aug-03 Location: SYDNEY | | | | Never had a snake with an intestinal blockage and don't know anyone that has. Have heard of them being consipated, but normally a warm bath or cleaning their encllosure out sorts them out and even that isn't that common.
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04-Apr-07, 08:11 AM
|  | Necker Cube Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: NSW | | | | I think an intestinal blockage may be possible from rat fur but you would probably have to seriously overfeed your snake and not offer the correct temperatures for basking. Unfortunately for some vets all it takes is one case for them to condemn a certain practice.
I've never heard of it and if it was as prevalent as the vet is making out, we all would have heard about it numerous times. |
04-Apr-07, 12:27 PM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | So far what I expected..no instances of rat fur buildup in the gut.
You could be right Chimera.
Anybody else have any experience in this matter?
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04-Apr-07, 12:30 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-06 Location: Hornsby Age/Gender: 33  | | | try shaving the rats if it worries you,...!? 
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04-Apr-07, 12:45 PM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | haha...it doesnt worry me chris if it rarely (if at all) happens....however, if it does happen well, then I may be concerned.
Anybody else have any experience in this matter?
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04-Apr-07, 12:46 PM
| | Necker Cube Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: NSW | | | Follow your vets advice, it could be a new market ripe for the picking:
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04-Apr-07, 01:02 PM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Qld Gender: | | | | Earthling - I feed all my snakes on rats and have never had this problem, I do see a lot of hair in there droppings at times but like I said it has never been a prob.
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04-Apr-07, 01:47 PM
| | Sponsor | Join Date: Jan-06 Location: Newcastle | | | | We had a snake which was prolapsing after a large feed. It was suggested we avoid furry food as after all, all poo is is the undigestable part of the meal- basically fur. Instead of rats we fed pinky rabbits which are about 100 grams each. IMO they are equal to a medium say 150 gram rat because they are all nutrition with very little waste. After using Rabbits there was almoast no waste and no problem with prolapse. The animal now eats rats, quails, chooks mice and rabbits without problem. I guess the pinky furless food gave it just enough of a rest for the muscles to tone up and prevent prolapsing. Perhaps the same would apply if an animal had an internal problem causin blockage which given time may sort its self out. | | |
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