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16-Jun-07, 07:46 AM
|  | steve Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: gold coast Gender:  | | |  reptile course?
just been looking at the herp shop and noticed a course advertised from a instructor raymond hoser. i already have a restricted licence to keep vens and aslo have a demagde mitigation permit to capture and relocate reps but im always keen to learn new things.Has any one attented his course or dose any one have any knowledge of whats involved in his courses.?
thanks steve.
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16-Jun-07, 07:48 AM
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16-Jun-07, 08:28 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Syd | | | |
Rays elapids have been mutilated to render them incapable of inflicting a lethal bite.
This is done without the assistance of a vet or anesthetic. He still performs this operation contrary to his claims otherwise. As his snakes die he replaces them with new venomoids.
He is though a wealth of information.
Ray also does childrens parties, a bit like that vid of the baby with the cobra really.
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16-Jun-07, 08:49 AM
| | steve Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: gold coast Gender: | | | |
thats not a good look for the poor snakes how could some one be aloud to do that.
also dont venomous snakes use there venom that contains protiens to help brake down there food for digestion. im not to judge some one of there profesion but that dosent seem right to me but thats just my opinion.
thanks for that i dont aprove of it or would support it.
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16-Jun-07, 09:10 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Vic Age/Gender: 56 | | | |
with a bit more prodding this thread has real potential as another ray hoser bash. I would be very surprised if somebody who keeps vens and has any sort of venemous related permits has never heard of ray hoser already.
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16-Jun-07, 11:01 AM
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wow raymond bashers lol
funny how things are, when Raymond Hoser is always the face of venomous snakes how many times you see him on commerical news broadcasts and other media facets warning of the dangers of being the hero by killing the killer elapid, and what to if you find a snake.
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16-Jun-07, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by elapid@  im not to judge some one of there profesion but that dosent seem right to me but thats just my opinion | in my eyes  raymond hoser IS NOT a proffessional |
16-Jun-07, 11:17 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Hamilton island, QLD Age/Gender: 28 | | |
Im not touching this with a ten foot pole......... 
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16-Jun-07, 11:18 AM
|  | " supirior" Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-03 Location: here | | |
A course designed to teach people how to handle venomoids 
I thought everyone knew the best way to do that.Take a handful of previously venomous species,just select according to pattern and colour and then drape them over your shoulders,easy as.  |
16-Jun-07, 11:26 AM
|  | Sponsor | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 31 | | | |
Time for a stir......
Not saying what Raymond Hoser does is right, but in a way I can see why he does it to minimise the risk of potentially losing a life if someone does get tagged during training to better prepare one for a real life situation.
A bit like filming and action scene in a 'shoot 'em up' movie and using live rounds instead of blanks, just pray you don't get hit. Wouldn't that be fun?!
Again, just stirring the pot! ;o)
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16-Jun-07, 11:47 AM
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While every one is entitled to their own oppinion on venomoids.
The training course is not about venomoids.
Yes you will be handling venomoids to learn various aspects of handling snakes.
That is only part of a well put together training schedule that offers an excellent insight on how to minimise any risk to the snake or your self when out handling snakes in the wild.
If you do decide to attend Raymonds course I personally believe you will not be disappointed as he is one of the most knowledgible and helpful persons you will find when it comes to information on snakes.
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16-Jun-07, 01:26 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-06 Location: melbourne, vic Age/Gender: 32  | | | |
totally back up snakesrule.
The person was asking if anyone had attended this course, keep to the topic.
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16-Jun-07, 01:49 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | |
Nothing against Raymond (well, okay there is a few things) but this course seems to fly in the direction of everything he tries to stand in the way of when he speaks to the media! What is it Raymond, leave the snakes alone or touch the snakes? Oh but hang on I keep forgetting that there is cash involved in it this time, so that must make it alright! 
But on the thread, who knows?? Considering his experience I'm sure you'd learn something of value, whether it's 300 bucks worth, that'll be the chance you'll take.
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16-Jun-07, 02:55 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Age/Gender: 34 | | | |
I've done a Reptile Husbandry course with Snakehandler and was very happy with what I learnt from them. They are Victoria based but I know they travel to other states. I did my course in Brisbane.
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16-Jun-07, 04:35 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Syd | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by koubee totally back up snakesrule.
The person was asking if anyone had attended this course, keep to the topic. | He asked whats involved and venomoids are involved. Its totally on topic.
Personally I'm somewhat taken aback that the Herp trader would run such an ad but then again perhaps Im not.
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