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26-Jun-07, 03:35 PM
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Hey everyone,
I live in Qld and when I first started liking reptiles I did my research and was surprised to find how easy it is for someone to simple apply for a reptile license, in fact I was rather annoyed. All you have to do is fill in an application form and $50 for 5 years and send it off to Environmental Protection Agency, and usually you would receive your license about 2 weeks later, then you’re off to purchase your first reptile.
However, during my years with reptiles, I've had parents contact me about purchasing a reptile for their child and how they go about it, so I lead them on the right path and weeks later, they have their license and purchased their first reptile. Then I’m happy knowing I’ve helped another little boy or girl in getting their first reptile, but then about 2 months - 6 months later I find out that the same little boy or girl has lost interest in reptiles.
I disagree with the EPA licensing system, if someone who is truly interested in reptiles; would do their research and decide if this is really what they want before purchasing a reptile. Therefore I think people should have to complete and pass a test before getting their license. The test would consist of about 30 multiple choice questions regarding very basic reptile care.
What are your thoughts on this?
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26-Jun-07, 03:42 PM
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the same could be said for every other animal that is privately kept! Same story just a different species being kept. How many kittens and puppies get dumped because (not just kids) people lost interest?
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26-Jun-07, 03:43 PM
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i fully agree, but as someone mentioned in a previous post on this topic people would skip getting the licence part and get the animal anyway,...
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26-Jun-07, 03:44 PM
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I agree, before i applied for my license i thought i would have to sit in on a lecture of some sort. $50 for 5 years is cheap, here in NSW i had to pay $60 for 2 years.
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26-Jun-07, 03:44 PM
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then what about having Kids? there are people that do not deserve the responsibility of having kids. No test there? Why target herps? yes there are a lot of twits that own reptiles, but no test will wean them out.
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26-Jun-07, 03:44 PM
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In order to create a multiple choice test of 30 questions you would probably need over 200 questions to rotate for the test to be valid.
I don't think a basic husbandry test would be valid as there are many variations to basic husbandry that all work. Quite simply there is no way to effectively measure someones commitment.
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26-Jun-07, 03:48 PM
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Sounds like a valid point, however, lots of people buy dogs, cats, fish etc and don't even need a licence so I don't think thats something that would probably be put in place. I agree with your points but just look at the RSPCA and how many abandoned animals they have. At least with reptiles, the licence sort of helps this, imagine how many people might walk into a pet shop, buy a reptile spontaneously and take it home if the licences weren't in place. Think of how many fish get flushed - with licences in to some extent controls this with people having to record their animals. I admit, it is leaniant but how strict can they be????? Sort of an iffy topic I guess.
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26-Jun-07, 03:48 PM
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what about a multiple choice questionnaire on the responsible consumption of alcohol? before you can purchase. Yes sarcasm! but there is a message in it.
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26-Jun-07, 03:48 PM
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sorry double post | 
26-Jun-07, 03:49 PM
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Here's a scary thought - you don't need a licence to have kids
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26-Jun-07, 03:55 PM
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Hmmmm you make an interesting point. Even if passing a test was a prerequisite for obtaining a licence, it would still be possible for someone to develop an interest in reptiles, learn enough to pass the test, get their reptile and then lose interest further down the track.
Given the current laws, it's not really possible to buy a reptile on impulse. Preparing your application, organising payment, waiting for your licence to arrive - that stuff all takes time.
I'm not sure... I suppose if people had to take the time out of their busy lives to come into an EPA office and take a test they might think thoroughly about whether they really want a reptile or not. And researching their chosen reptile would make them realise how much work is involved in caring for one. That's one thing I didn't realise, despite all the research I did, until we actually got our first beardie and brought him home I had no idea how much work they are - he has totally consumed our lives!
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26-Jun-07, 03:56 PM
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I'm not sure how it is in Queensland, but I think that's why down here we have the 6 month rule.
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26-Jun-07, 04:00 PM
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The 6 month rule applies in QLD too. That's a bit scary though - what if someone buys a reptile and loses interest before the 6 month period is up?? Instead of re-homing it immediately to someone who will take good care of it, they might just leave it to slowly rot in a corner somewhere without the proper care it requires.
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26-Jun-07, 04:02 PM
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Good point, that's even worse
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26-Jun-07, 05:28 PM
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Well ok, you all make valid points but what I'm trying to say is that it should be harder for people to purchase a reptile, hence will give people longer time to think whether it's just a phase or not. Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss B Hmmmm you make an interesting point. Even if passing a test was a prerequisite for obtaining a licence, it would still be possible for someone to develop an interest in reptiles, learn enough to pass the test, get their reptile and then lose interest further down the track.
Given the current laws, it's not really possible to buy a reptile on impulse. Preparing your application, organising payment, waiting for your licence to arrive - that stuff all takes time.
I'm not sure... I suppose if people had to take the time out of their busy lives to come into an EPA office and take a test they might think thoroughly about whether they really want a reptile or not. And researching their chosen reptile would make them realise how much work is involved in caring for one. That's one thing I didn't realise, despite all the research I did, until we actually got our first beardie and brought him home I had no idea how much work they are - he has totally consumed our lives!  | That is what I'm saying, if we where to delay the time taken to get any pet, it would make people think, chances are a good percentage of them would think why bother and loose interest. And I'm not just applying this to reptiles, but all pets.
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