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20-Feb-08, 07:47 AM
|  | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | |  Research? 95% snake bites from people interfering/killing the snake?
Statements like this are often bandied about:
"Do not try to catch or kill a snake. Statistics show that 95% of people that end up in hospital from snakebite are those that have tried to kill or interfere with the snake" Before I use this info though, I would like to confirm where these stats came from and if they are from good research. Ive done a search on google but no joy.
Anybody know where these stats came from?
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20-Feb-08, 08:03 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: melbourne australia Age: 45 | | | | “Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.”
Homer simpson..
A lot more bites occur when the snake is being "interfered " with..i.m.o than just being stepped on accidentally, and a lot of bites are reported to be accidental when in fact they may not have been .
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20-Feb-08, 11:22 AM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | Yes, you are correct sssssnakeman regarding stats can be manipulated and made to show whatever you want to show. However, that does not mean there are no ethical sound statistics out their, with truth as their prime objective. Fair Statistics do exist and many in the proffesions produce these sound, objective statistics.
In your statement "a lot of bites are reported to be accidental when in fact they may not have been."
May is the word here that we need to be carefull of. Too many people make very large mistakes over the word may...as history shows. Mays are good Snakeman, however im looking for proof not guesses.
If anyone has proof that 95% of snake bites are from people "that have tried to kill or interfere with the snake"
Please post away.
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20-Feb-08, 12:01 PM
|  | SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS! Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: toowoomba Q | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssnakeman  “Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of people know that.”
Homer simpson..
. | Fixed.
If the '95%' stat did in fact come from a study I would assume it would come from a suitably sized sample of snake bite patients. But then again you never know....
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20-Feb-08, 12:24 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: May-05 Location: wide bay queensland | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling Statements like this are often bandied about:
"Do not try to catch or kill a snake. Statistics show that 95% of people that end up in hospital from snakebite are those that have tried to kill or interfere with the snake" Before I use this info though, I would like to confirm where these stats came from and if they are from good research. Ive done a search on google but no joy.
Anybody know where these stats came from? | are the other five percent dead?.
cheers 
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20-Feb-08, 12:27 PM
|  | << ~Go turtle GO!~ Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: Karalee, SE QLD Age/Gender: 15  | | | Statistics show that 96% of statistics are made up on the spot 
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20-Feb-08, 12:28 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-07 Location: Western NSW Gender:  | | | | "There are three types of lies. There are lies, damn lies, & statistics."
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20-Feb-08, 12:32 PM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | Just looking throgh some of my old links and found this: http://members.iinet.net.au/~bush/myth.html 
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20-Feb-08, 12:34 PM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | Accident - unavoidable without exceptional awareness.
Herp - herpetologist bitten while handling snake.
Kill - bitten while killing snake.
Mis ID - bitten while handling venomous snake believing it to be harmless.
Trod - bitten after treading on snake.
? - insufficient data to determine cause.
Figure 2. Comparing the relative frequency of causes of snakebite in Australia resulting in the deaths of 40 people over a 27 year period (from Sutherland, 1992 & 1994 and media reports for 1993-2007).
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20-Feb-08, 12:40 PM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | Problems with this study is that they used media reports for the majority of cases, and as we should all know by now, media reports do not necesarily show the correct information...or for that matter, all the information which would be needed for a study such as this.
Sooooo...still looking for a good study...anybody?
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20-Feb-08, 12:46 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Cairns | | | | Most of the stats I could find with google (mostly US studies) showed around 40% due to handling / killing with 95% of bites being to the foot or ankle, often due to treading on the snake.
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20-Feb-08, 12:47 PM
|  | I Eat Cats Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 20 | | | | Id like to know how many of those people actually trod on the snake with their fingers... |
20-Feb-08, 01:11 PM
|  | Josh! Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Bulli, N.S.W Age/Gender: 23 | | | | "There's Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics"
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20-Feb-08, 01:11 PM
| | Josh! Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Bulli, N.S.W Age/Gender: 23 | | | | Statisitcs are simply a method to make contrived or bullshit information sounds credible and believable
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20-Feb-08, 01:28 PM
| | #44-9aCustom#GR-094 Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Out the Back of Queensland and a bit more Age: 99 | | | | Righto....now everybody has said their two bits worth on statistics, can you all please get on topic again?
Cheers for that Magpie, have you got any links..or what words did you google?
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