sa womas

[Robbo]

hey guys
i am wondering if anybody keeps sa womas and what the differance is from the nt ones
and why they are cheaper ? are they a less desirable snake ?
does anyone have any pics of the i havent found any on a search of this site or a yahoo search

thanks
shane

[basketcase]

http://www.users.on.net/~jbonnett/ramsayi.htm

as you can see from the pics the SA's are bigger and the banding is not as clearly defined

[Jason]

they are only the price of a bhp in most cases, and they get almost as big, i still wouldnt mind some. not as nice as the nt imo

[Robbo]

thanks for the link it shows the differances great
and yeah the person is selling the sa womas and bhps for the same price

[Jason]

personaly i would go the sa womas, although i like the bhp's more then the sa, i just think they would be easier to breed and sell due to less breeders (jmo)

[zulu]

Gday rob, try to find neils reptile page he is the major breeder of sa womas and he has a good photo gallery,he had an article on womas in australian reptiles magazine.In that article he stated that sa womas were mixed with other womas for breeding initially,pobably why some are lighter but theres the west aussie ones they gotta be pure cause some are wild collected.

[Jason]

there are only a hand full of WA's in captivity i thought?

[flavirufus]

I haven't read Neil's article and wouldn't doubt the information contained in it. However, it'd be safe to say that the SA womas that are normally offered for sale would be pure bred. A cross breed would be more likely to be passed off as an NT than an SA. There certainly appear to be SA (or Qld) x NT animals overseas, but there do not appear to be many of this type of cross breed in Australia. However, it'd be fair to say that there are plenty of NT animals from distinctly different locations (e.g. Uluru x Tanami) that have been cross bred.
Matt
http://www.users.on.net/~jbonnett/

[moosenoose]

I'd personally like to know why it is still legal for wild ones to be collected in South Aust! For research I could understand, but stripping them out purely for the pet trade is wrong as far as I am concerned!

[flavirufus]

I'm not sure what you mean by legally stripping them from the wild in SA for the pet trade? There may be some people illegally collecting them, but there have only been a very small number legally collected over the past 10 years. It is largely from these animals that the pure bred animals (now multi generational captive bred) now available in the pet trade trade originated from. Personally, I'm wrapped that a few animals were allowed to be collected and that they're now established in captivity.
Matt
http://www.users.on.net/~jbonnett/

[Fuscus]

Originally Posted by moosenoose

I'd personally like to know why it is still legal for wild ones to be collected in South Aust! For research I could understand, but stripping them out purely for the pet trade is wrong as far as I am concerned!

??? I haven't heard about this. It is possible to legally collect wild SA herps but I think permission is very, very difficult to obtain and I doubt if you can on-sell the animals, breeding or research purposes only.

[moosenoose]

Hmmmm I have seen the ad on this site stating Wild Caught Woma's for sale - let me see if I can't find it! ...I got a feeling it's an old friend of mine!

[zulu]

Originally Posted by flavirufus

I haven't read Neil's article and wouldn't doubt the information contained in it. However, it'd be safe to say that the SA womas that are normally offered for sale would be pure bred. A cross breed would be more likely to be passed off as an NT than an SA. There certainly appear to be SA (or Qld) x NT animals overseas, but there do not appear to be many of this type of cross breed in Australia. However, it'd be fair to say that there are plenty of NT animals from distinctly different locations (e.g. Uluru x Tanami) that have been cross bred.
Matt
http://www.users.on.net/~jbonnett/

Gday Mathew,yeh it seems as you say,the sa womas neil breeds are pure breds as i understand it as he apparently breeds them in conjunction with the adelaide zoo,though it was a while since i read up on it.I think he is refering to other womas also probably Nt ones that had sa woma bloodlines mixed,surely there would be other womas taken from NT that are pure bloodlines,adds have appeared in the past that say NT taken on permitt,write or wrong i dont know

[moosenoose]

http://www.aussiepythons.com/index.p...ht=wild+caught

Okay, it's not a woma, but where do you draw the line???

What is the purpose behind obtaining a takers license? Surely you mustn't be able to collect then sell "native" animals in the marketplace?

Funny how unless it's been given the okay by big brother stuff like this is frowned upon!

[Fuscus]

its an WA animal. WA does allow commerical collection of herps.

and the line is drawn at the SA/WA border