Aussie Pythons and Snakes

pythonman16 · #1 10-Jul-03, 01:53 AM

i am currently, breeding cape york spotted pythons and want to move on to breeding scrub pythons, any firsthand info on their wild habits or captive care would be geatly apreciated. thank you in advance, travis mcquady (pythonman16)

pythonss · #2 10-Jul-03, 07:26 AM

hi travis.

firstly why do yu want to..lol na just kidding.

which form of scrubs are you planing on keeping.?

captive care...we found that the more room you could give them the better they were to keep. they can be very highly strung as young animals but once you get some size on them a good majority of them will become very relaxed. however if you have one with a bad attitude as an adult they can be very scary.

they do get beyond the 14 foot mark in captivity very easly and there appitite will match there lenght..lol
we feel that the metaboloism of scrubbys would have to be one of the fastest of any python which seems to keep them hungry most of the time.
they come from tropical climate so like there enclosure nice and warm
wild ones in australia are found in both very humid and fairly dry areas so humidity dosent seem to have a great bearing but i would keep the humidity above 50% myself.
they are highly aboreal so must have the climb space in a enclosure and prefer to use elevated hides. the hides can be anything really we have used pvc pipe, parrot boxes, logs, and the hanging baskets that are used for plants.
they are a lean python in the wild and should also be like that in captivity we feel. but saying that over feeding a scrubby can be hard to do and we have not seen many over weight scrubbys in captivity. with maybe the exception of a older animal that is still being feed a young growing animals diet. they will eat nearly anything that is offered as adults.
if kept in a large enviroment they can be kept in mulitupuls with very little problem..
hope that helps some.
cheers paul.

Magpie · #3 10-Jul-03, 10:55 AM

Pythonss said

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if kept in a large enviroment they can be kept in mulitupuls with very little problem..
hope that helps some.

I spose an adult scrubbie looks like too big a meal, even to another adult scubbie eh?
I am looking forward to getting some scrubs in a while so keep the info comin'.......

#4 10-Jul-03, 11:01 AM

Enclosure size is most important for this species.Below is a quote from the Animal roundabout...

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An exhibitor of amythestine pythons (scrubbies) recently had a problem with hostile behaviour and bitings among pythons.The "bitey" pythons (a male and a female),stopped biting when they were introduced to a bigger enclosure measuring 2400x2800 with the usual heating,climbing,hiding,water and security features.It was apparent that the larger enclosure resulted in decreased aggression.

NoOne · #5 10-Jul-03, 12:57 PM

Talk about going from one extreme to another, from spotteds to scrubbies.
I read somewhere they are more intelligent than other pythons, have you noticed this Paul?

pythonman16 · #6 11-Jul-03, 05:51 AM

its true that moving from spotteds to scrubbies is a big step but i also have experience with large snakes(african rock pythons). it will be a challenge, but im prepared for it. thank you all for the replies, keep em coming!!! fellow herper, pythonman16 (travis)

pythonss · #7 11-Jul-03, 01:41 PM

hi no one

thats a funny thing you have asked...im not sure weather they have more inteligence
but yes they seem to know what the go is. a bad tempered one that we had i swear nearly had differant expresions..lol some day when he was looking at you i reacon you could see it in his eyes what he was thinking. he also had preferances as to where he wanted to bite you..lol some pythons just bite what they can get a hold of.. this guy liked certain places, well he seemed to. eg : lower ribs on the side of body, inner thigh and face seemed to be the favorites..lol
cheers paul.

Magpie · #8 11-Jul-03, 01:46 PM

OUCH!

byjungle · #9 11-Jul-03, 01:49 PM

Hi Paul, do you breed them? If so how much would a pair of Juveniles cost?

cheers
Mark

Magpie · #10 11-Jul-03, 01:59 PM

Just noticed this bit of pythonss original answer

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which form of scrubs are you planing on keeping.?

Wondering what the diferent forms of scrubbies are? I didn't even know they had diferent forms.

pythonman16 · #11 11-Jul-03, 02:01 PM

i gues the reason they go for those places is they are the warmest. they like all boids have labial heat pits and use them for hunting and defence. just watch your self, my african rock goes for the face and if she connects, i would have some serious stiches. ill post pics of my critters when i can. thanks all. also whats with this, egg juvie and abult snake moderator thing?? explain please. well bye for now - travis

byjungle · #12 11-Jul-03, 02:05 PM

Hey Magpie, he is in the US, so he has access to a couple differnt types i think, such as the mollocan, barneck etc, think they are from Indonesia and New Guinea. We just have the most impressive one.

Magpie · #13 11-Jul-03, 02:08 PM

The Egg etc is just about how many posts you have made. Don't worry about it, none of the rest of us do...

Morelia_man · #14 11-Jul-03, 02:08 PM

thats all about the amount of posts u have made i think.
eg: egg:1-5 neonate:5-20 juvenile: 20-50 and so on and so on.
and the moderators are the ones that make sure people keep in line.

cheers
charles

pythonss · #15 12-Jul-03, 02:02 PM

hi mark
no we dont keep scrubbies any more..they eat to much..lol crap in to biger piles..lol and some years ya cant give the babys away..

last ones i saw for sale were 300 each mark. so if your after some sing out as i still know a couple of guys breeding them..
cheers paul.