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11-Nov-07, 05:04 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Tamborine | | |  snake bitten by live rat
hey all
We got a 6 foot carpet that always eats live rats we breed, never had a problem except today the rat actually bit him
we given him a wash but should be be on the look out for anything, or should we just take him to his vet??
any help would be appeciated
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11-Nov-07, 05:06 PM
|  | Big Hobs Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: transporting herps along the east coast Age/Gender: 35  | | | | thats why you shouldnt live feed
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11-Nov-07, 05:07 PM
|  | Q Dog Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Redlands, SE Qld Gender: | | | | Personally I would take him to the vet, you can't be too cautious IMO.
Bec, is there a reason why you feed him live prey? This should always be a last resort.
Good luck with your carpet.
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11-Nov-07, 05:07 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: Townsville Age/Gender: 21 | | | | Don't feed live.
Stick some betadine on the wound if its broken the skin.
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11-Nov-07, 05:07 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: typical melbourne Gender: | | | | where abouts did he get bitten? |
11-Nov-07, 05:09 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Tamborine | | | | when we got him thats what the previous owners had fed him we perservered for ages trying dead rats but he would never eat them, we didnt want him too starve... dammed if we do dammed if we didnt |
11-Nov-07, 05:11 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: SE QLD | | | | i would put some antiseptic spray on the wound
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11-Nov-07, 05:16 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23 | | | | It depends on how bad the bite is and where it is on the snake, rats can pack a really mean bite and there is a small chance it may need attention from a vet. Most likely some betadine or similar and keeping an eye on it will be fine.
To prevent this happening in the future kill the rodent immediately before feeding it to the snake. I would be suprised if the snake wouldnt go for a twitching meal. |
11-Nov-07, 05:23 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: typical melbourne Gender: | | | | that would work well a guy from work used to stun his guinea pigs then feed the snake as it would not take defrosted ones |
11-Nov-07, 05:30 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane, Toowong Age/Gender: 20 | | | | People always forget live feeding is legal if the snake won't eat anything else - as is the case here.
But yeah, try fresh killed and just jiggle it by the tail in front of the snake - that way it smells live, is warm like a live one, and is wriggling like a live one.
As for the wound, it depends how bad it is and where it is? Gotta photo? |
11-Nov-07, 05:42 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melbourne Age/Gender: 20 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilK  People always forget live feeding is legal if the snake won't eat anything else - as is the case here. | i dont know where you heard that! It's considered cruelty to animals feeding live animals to anything. The animal has to be humanly euthanaised before feeding it to another animal, for the rights of the feeder animal & the animal/s eating the feeder animal.
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11-Nov-07, 05:44 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: kellyville,sydney Age/Gender: 34 | | | | yeah wack the rat on the ground to stun it then offer it to the snake |
11-Nov-07, 05:49 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: Townsville Age/Gender: 21 | | | | Or just hold it upside down by the tail and flick it very hard with you middle finger on the base of the skull...usually does the trick.
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11-Nov-07, 05:53 PM
|  | QUEEN B Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock Lobster I dont know where you heard that! It's considered cruelty to animals feeding live animals to anything. The animal has to be humanly euthanaised before feeding it to another animal, for the rights of the feeder animal & the animal/s eating the feeder animal. | Not quite. It is illegal in all states and territories to feed live prey unless the python consistently refuses fresh killed or thawed.
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11-Nov-07, 05:55 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Tamborine | | | | Hi
Thanks for all the information, will try dead ones and see, As for the bite it is really tiny very lucky this time have given him a wash and put some antiseptic on him he seems fine will keep an extra close eye on him over the next few days, i have had shaving nicks bigger than this (the only way i would describe it soz)
Thanks again so very very much\ | | |
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