snake bitten by live rat

[jay76]

Originally Posted by Brock Lobster

i dont know where you heard that! It's considered cruelty to animals feeding live animals to anything. The animal has to be humanly euthanaised before feeding it to another animal, for the rights of the feeder animal & the animal/s eating the feeder animal.

you are wrong it is legal like philk said in QLD if the snake will not take anything else

[Rosemary]

If you can get to a health store, get hold of some Golden Seal Ointment. Its about $12 for a jar but well worth it. I use it on everything from human eyes to wounds on animals or reps.........can't beat usually heals whatever over night.

[Brock Lobster]

Originally Posted by Miss B

Not quite. It is illegal in all states and territories to feed live prey unless the python consistently refuses fresh killed or thawed.

is this written in a code of practice?

[mysnakesau]

Feeding live rats is as good as feeding 2 snakes together. I've alwaysfed my 2 carpets together without any dramas but today they both let go of their rats - still constricted them but released their bite - and went nosing around each other. But lucky I managed to pull one out before the other got hold of her rat. Mind you I kept my hand between the 2 snakes to avoid one grabbing the other - so never again with this game. She was still squeezing her rat as I pulled her out and then they both continued to eat their rats without fuss.

[Barney]

freshly killed works well as its not thawed
If you kill it re. the rat and goes into spasm it gets the attention the snake eats
after that dead ones all the way its worked for me

As I have had the same problem previous owner/s feeding live

[Rosemary]

Yep as everyone says its not a good practice to feed live but I kill my rats and then feed them freshly killed. BUT if you do have to toss a live rat in bash it over the back of the neck first that way it still smells alive to the snake. Always wait and watch to make sure the snake has coiled it whatever you do that way you will avoid a snake being bitten.
I have seen rats who have been supposedly euthanaised with Co2 actually revive themselves obiously not enough gas and they just appear dead. Some rats just need a bit more than others to kill them

[PhilK]

Originally Posted by Brock Lobster

i dont know where you heard that! It's considered cruelty to animals feeding live animals to anything. The animal has to be humanly euthanaised before feeding it to another animal, for the rights of the feeder animal & the animal/s eating the feeder animal.

Like Miss B said.

I 'heard that' from the law hahaha. It's also common sense. If a snake does not eat fresh killed or frozen/thawed it is legal to feed live. What else are you meant to do? Sit and watch it starve to death?

In this case live feeding seems to be the legal kind, as the snake has lived on live its whole life and is not taking anything else (amd IMO isn't likely to, as it has had live food all its life).

Secretly, I wish live feeding was safe and legal 'cause I'd love to see it.. Like Animal Planet in my own house.

[Bung-Eye]

get a ruler and snap the rats neck just before you drop it in, that way its still warm and smells alive. Although as stated, it is perfectly legal to feed your snakes live if they consistantly refuse to eat anything else. If you let your snake starve to death you can imagine the uprising from people " OMG THATS CRUELTY MAN WHY FOR NOT FEED IT?!!!!1ELEVEN1!!!111!!11!!"

[Miss B]

Originally Posted by Brock Lobster

is this written in a code of practice?

It's part of the Animal Cruelty Act, as far as I am aware (not about to go looking it up, lol).

[Bouncer]

Our very first carpet snake was also fed live. It took 8 months, but we stuck to our guns and she finally took a thawed rat. She is now the best eater we have. It's hard to watch them go without but in the long run, much better for the animal.
Good Luck with it

[x_aussie_bloke_x]

True your correct Bouncer!

[symbol]

There is also another good antiseptic ointment that I have used on animals before (including reptiles) Melaleuca Honey, non toxic and has a antibacterial agent in it.

[slither]

hey bec take him to the vet for sure i work in the industry so if u need a hand feel free to pm me

[OdessaStud]

Originally Posted by symbol

There is also another good antiseptic ointment that I have used on animals before (including reptiles) Melaleuca Honey, non toxic and has a antibacterial agent in it.

Sorry but its called Manuka Honey and it is excellent heres an article about it ive even used it on white tail spider bites brillant stuff.Good luck but try stunning the rat like the others said far more humane and alot safer for your snake.
Odie

Monofloral honey is a type of honey which has a high value in the marketplace because it has a distinctive flavor or other attribute due to its being predominantly from the nectar of one plant species. [1] While all honeys have some medicinal value, active manuka honey containing the Unique Manuka Factor (UMF) has been shown to have higher antibacterial activity than other tested honeys.[2]

Tupelo honey from the southeastern United States is prized because it is extremely slow to crystallize. In northern Florida, an independent testing laboratory certifies the purity of local tupelo honey, which greatly increases its value.

While there may never be an absolute monofloral type, some honeys are relatively pure due to the prodigious nectar production of a particular species, such as citrus (Orange blossom honey), or there may be little else in bloom at the time.

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Monofloral honeys are also kept in separate tanks and labeled separately so as to command a premium price.

[Colhunter]

When i first bought my childrens python , the breeder gave me some live mice to freeze. I found it hard enough to put these little pinky mice in a freezer to die. Not sure i could see one getting eaten alive either.
I always feed my guys dead rats i buy from the pet shop, dangle them by their tail , and watch my boys go to work from there. That way noone gets hurt and i dont feel bad.

But when ya love ya pets and they arnt feeding , you gotta do what ya gotta do. After all if they were in the wild , noone is going to kill them before they get eaten for the snakes.
Im just lucky i dont have that problem as my snakes im sure are pigs in discise. lol