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View Poll Results: Which snake handling course would you recommend? | |
Martin Baxter / Animalwise
|     | 3 | 7.89% | |
Geoff Coombe / Living with Wildlife
|    | 9 | 23.68% | |
Jonno Lucas / Educational Reptile Displays
|    | 20 | 52.63% | |
Sean McCarthy / Snakehandlers
|    | 6 | 15.79% |
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18-Mar-08, 02:34 PM
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what course do u need to do in qld to relocate and keep vens ??
thanks
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18-Mar-08, 02:41 PM
|  | biasedly unbiased Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Legally_Red  Dear Greebo
I was not trying to promote anyone - I have never met and do not know any of the people I've listed. They are/were the only courses I have heard about or come across online/in print. I am nothing more than a herp novice trying to learn from other people's experiences to ensure I choose the best course. Since they all seem to cost a similar amount, I want to be sure I'll be learning at much as can be learnt from this kind of course before I hand over any hard-earned dollars.
I failed to receive much feedback from my earlier posting asking folk about their experiences with any courses they done, so was hoping a poll might tease out some more info from this unusually shy audience... |
I realise you were not intentionally trying to promote this person. I was just explaining why your poll had been edited.
I would ask other members not to bring up He who shall not be named again. We havent been threatened with any lawsuits this week and it would be nice to keep it that way 
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18-Mar-08, 02:58 PM
|  | Punk in Drublic Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Gold Coast Gender: | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by snake-eyes what course do u need to do in qld to relocate and keep vens ??
thanks | You need to complete the damage mitigation course, ERD does it, and you will need 2 stat decs to be able to relocate snakes.
As for keeping vens i'm not sure, but think you will need stat decs again stating you can carry out the needed husbandry and show that they will be housed in a manner that they can not escape their enclosure and the room they are in, or something like that. you will need to prove your experience with elapids to do any husbandry/handling course, something i'm working on now, so if i find out how to gain the experience without being bitten i'll let you know.
Someone with their vens licence will be able to confirm the requirements for keeping.
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18-Mar-08, 03:15 PM
|  | FORD OWNER Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Sutherland Shire NSW Age: 32 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Greebo We havent been threatened with any lawsuits this week and it would be nice to keep it that way | LOL. Good one. He must have taken his Prozac.
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19-Mar-08, 09:09 PM
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[Thanks for that mate, might have to get onto erd  .*so if i find out how to gain the experience without being bitten i'll let you know.*
LOL good luck with that one mate
cheers luke
quote=Ozzie Python;1103113]You need to complete the damage mitigation course, ERD does it, and you will need 2 stat decs to be able to relocate snakes.
As for keeping vens i'm not sure, but think you will need stat decs again stating you can carry out the needed husbandry and show that they will be housed in a manner that they can not escape their enclosure and the room they are in, or something like that. you will need to prove your experience with elapids to do any husbandry/handling course, something i'm working on now, so if i find out how to gain the experience without being bitten i'll let you know.
Someone with their vens licence will be able to confirm the requirements for keeping.[/quote]
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19-Mar-08, 09:19 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: S.A. Gender:  | | | |
I have recently emailed Geoff Coombe/ Living with wildlife as my partner & I would like to do his course. Dragon Lady, he is based at Williamstown. Not sure about cost or dates as yet. Waiting for a reply. Can anyone comment about Geoff's course?
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19-Mar-08, 09:47 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Adelaide | | | |
i have done two different courses with Geoff Coombe, one being a venomous snake handling course and the other was a snake husbandry and breeding course and cannot recommend them enough for anyone in SA who would like to participate in and learn more about snakes. it was great to work with some of the snakes which had such bad reputations. defintely keep an eye out for them next time he does one as they fill up pretty quickly.
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19-Mar-08, 09:54 PM
|  | Bendy! Sponsor | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane Gender: | | | |
Geoff Coombe is one of very few people who I would recommend for any sort of wildlife based education.
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Specialising in venomous snake relocation and husbandry courses, basic and advanced reptile husbandry courses, wildlife seminars, interactive birthday parties, media opportunities and wildlife consultancy. 0413 128 248 |
19-Mar-08, 10:10 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: SE QLD | | | |
From what Ive been told I recon ERD
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19-Mar-08, 10:13 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: S.A. Gender: | | | |
Ok Thanks. We would like to do both courses, the vens mainly cos we are in an area where Tigers rule and the Browns & RRB are also very common. It would be nice to help out the neighbours and remove the snakes BEFORE they meet with the shovel!!
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20-Mar-08, 07:33 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Adelaide, SA (North East) Age/Gender: 56 | | |
Did a course with Geoff Coombe a while back at Mylor (Adelaide), included Matt Bonnett, Sonia Dewdney & other presenters. Good couple of days. Many came over from interstate too. http://www.livingwithwildlife.com.au/aboutgeoff.php
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20-Mar-08, 07:48 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: QUEENSLAND Age/Gender: 40 | | | |
No matter what course you have done it all comes down to the decision of the parks n wildlife in qld they make the final dec even jonno will have to say that is correct doesnt matter if you have passed by the training course and have your 2 referees written on your paper QPW make the last decision.... and with a damage mit lic you have to update it every 6 months at the moment .so not as easy nor as fool proof as what people think and yes there is a good chance that even after paying all that money to do a course you wont get a license something else to think about ......
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20-Mar-08, 08:05 AM
| | Bendy! Sponsor | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane Gender: | | | |
Redbellybite,
What you have tried to explain as new information is something we tell all course participants both before they book into the course and during the course. As we are not the EPA, of course we can not guarantee that the EPA will supply the permit. What we offer is the prerequisite experience required to obtain the permit. To date, everyone who has participated in our course and applied for a DMP has been awarded one.
__________________ Jonno Lucas - Educational Reptile Displays www.educationalreptiledisplays.com.au
Specialising in venomous snake relocation and husbandry courses, basic and advanced reptile husbandry courses, wildlife seminars, interactive birthday parties, media opportunities and wildlife consultancy. 0413 128 248 |
20-Mar-08, 08:14 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: QUEENSLAND Age/Gender: 40 | | |
cant answer that one jonno ,dont know all the peeps that have done your course but alot do presume ,that do the course get the license ---.and now you have said it too ....maybe more will realise not every tom dick and harry can get one... wasnt a shot at your business skills at all was stating a fact ..........I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE i have my DML and know the hoops you have to jump through ......they are not handed out like licenses to have a pet python or lizard etc was m y point . REDBELLYBITE |
20-Mar-08, 08:16 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Victoria Gender: | | | |
After completing the course I did years ago I have not attended any other venomous handling courses other than those run by myself, as such all I mention to people about courses is where I teach them and recomend people contact their state licensing body as they have a list of providers in their state, I do not recomend another course nor will I ever NOT recomend another course, especially as I have not attended it. To me this is unprofessional and unethical.
I have heard many comments from people who have attended other courses in VIC, NSW, QLD, SA and WA, to me this is something that I have been told in confidence and is a personal opinion. One which I would never repeat.
In some states it is very hard to get a permit, especially QLD where it seems to depend on the district you live in as to how they will assess your application. All other states have a centralised system, making a consistant approach, this makes the process easier but the overall assesment for suitability is up to the licensing body.
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