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12-Aug-04, 08:05 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-04 Location: Adelaide | | |
Is there much difference between SA and Victorian MD's? Are the colours and patterns the same? Character the same? Lengths?.
Do people cross them or are they seperate bloodlines? |
13-Aug-04, 09:10 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | SA MDs tend to be greyer and have a more pronounced roset(?) pattern. Other than that they tend to be MD, same size and temperment. People do cross them, I don't think that there are many "pure" SA MD in captivity. There is also a Flinders range carpet which is reddish, about half way between a MD and a bredli. To save people from PMing me, I haven't got any photos - sorry. |
13-Aug-04, 10:16 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Loganlea.Sth Brisbane.QLD | | | | If you have the book
A COMPLETE GUIDE TO REPTILES OF AUSTRALIA.
By Steve Wilson & Gerry Swan.
There is a pic of a MD with nice reddy colouring through it.
Fuscus would that be the Flinders range MD?
Very nice.Those whitish rosettes look awesome.
If anyone has something similar would love to see some more pic's of them. |
13-Aug-04, 10:48 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Robert If you have the book
A COMPLETE GUIDE TO REPTILES OF AUSTRALIA.
By Steve Wilson & Gerry Swan. | I actually have two (fair dinkum - one for the house and one for the car. The SA herp group had them on special a few months ago) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Robert
There is a pic of a MD with nice reddy colouring through it.
Fuscus would that be the Flinders range MD?
Very nice.Those whitish rosettes look awesome.
| From that photo the normal SA animals I have seen have no red on them at all and the only Flinders animal had a reddish tinge all over. Its getting close to the season so there is lots of deasert hiking coming up. I know a couple of areas where both varities should be, but they have declined dramatically and are very hard to find. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Robert
If anyone has something similar would love to see some more pic's of them.
| I'll post some photos if I get any. |
13-Aug-04, 11:28 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: NTH QLD | | | There's a breeder in SA who breeds the SA inland carpets.
Checkout the Inland Carpets in the photo gallery in the link below,they have a bit of variation and there's also a couple of pics of a Gammon Ranges carpet...Is this the same looking animal as the Flinders Ranges carpet you've mentioned Fuscus? http://www.southernxreptiles.com/
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13-Aug-04, 12:05 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | Gammon Ranges is the northern Flinders ranges. Thats where you get the red-sided dragons and the flinders carpet.
Southern Cross is run by Doc Rock, who has articles in the current Reptiles in Oz magazine.
But the web site isn't running properly from this computer, it works at home, i'll check it out then. |
13-Aug-04, 07:06 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | Made it home, that Gammon ranges snake looks very simular to the one I saw - wonder if it was the same individual |
13-Aug-04, 08:24 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-04 Location: Adelaide | | | So basically, just like our football teams, women, weather, beaches and fishing is better, so are our Murray Darlings. That would be a fair statement wouldn't it Fuscus? 
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13-Aug-04, 09:06 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | Well, like the football teams the MDs come in two seperate color pattens,
the women in SA are fantastic,
the weather is better than Melbourne (not that that says much),
incredible calm water and surf beaches.
But the fishing is strange, I go out to fish for tailor and I always come back with Aussie salmon  |
13-Aug-04, 09:09 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-04 Location: Melbourne Gender:  | | | this is not a definite or anything but i was actually told the vic carpets have more red in em than md's? other than that they look pretty similar...is what i was told anyway lol. dont yell at me if im wrong lol |
13-Aug-04, 09:11 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-04 Location: Melbourne Gender: | | | sorry sorry sorry i got that wrong! it was the md's that have more red!  |
13-Aug-04, 09:18 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-04 Location: Adelaide | | | And it also looks like our women are smarter Just kidding OuZo. Got to keep the SA-Vict rivarly going. |
13-Aug-04, 09:22 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-04 Location: Melbourne Gender: | | | lol shaddap punk  |
13-Aug-04, 09:42 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | SA has the cleanest air in Australia, except when the wind blows in from the east  Anyhow to respond to OuZos statement re red, the northern population tends to be reddish while the southern population grey. So you were right, twice.
But carpets are so varible in color, I'm sure its not a 100% reliable guide |
14-Aug-04, 10:35 AM
|  | Sdaji Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Victoria | | | Quote: |
this is not a definite or anything but i was actually told the vic carpets have more red in em than md's? other than that they look pretty similar...is what i was told anyway lol. dont yell at me if im wrong lol
| MDs and Vics are the same thing! Most 'Vics' don't come from Victoria. Just like not all 'coastals' come from anywhere near the coast etc etc.
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