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13-Nov-07, 06:28 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Kalamunda, Perth | | | Wanted Someone to teach a Snake Handlers Course Hi All.
I am currently doing some work out at Nyngan in NSW, its about 160km west from Dubbo.
The mine site im on has had 4 close encounters with snakes in the last month and needs someone to come out and train a few people on site the safe way to capture and release snakes around site.
If anyone knows someone who can come out and do this it would be muchly appriciated.
You will be paid of course. If someone has designed a actual course or knows of some one that can do this can you send me thier name and number as soon as posible for the snakes safety i dont want any getting hurt (any to workers as well)
I only have a dial up conection out here so may be slow with a reply so please be patient.
Thanks in advance
Damian | 
13-Nov-07, 06:54 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Vic Age/Gender: 27  | | | | Sounds like you need to employ a resident snake handler or someone licensed and experienced in handling and identification. You can't do a weekend course and become an expert on identification and handling. By the same token you can't just have someone 'come out and show you what to do' either, Basic 'local' wildlife education should almost be instituted in work inductions wherever necessary (particularly at a mining site in snake country). Though i can't offer any advice or help it is good that you are asking and seeking a solution rather than turn a blind eye to mindless people killing snakes on a 'whim'.
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13-Nov-07, 07:01 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Kalamunda, Perth | | | | there is enviromental officers onsite it is a legal requirement. but they have not had any contact with snakes.
in WA people come to site and teach you the safe way to capture snake and release them away from the mine just looking for someone over here. definatly not going to employee someone to sit one a mine site to remove one snake a week | 
13-Nov-07, 07:10 PM
|  | Bendy! Sponsor | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | | G'day Simesy,
This is what my business (Educational Reptile Displays) specialises in. We are based in Brisbane, but can obtain permits to conduct a course in WA.
It's probably best to discuss via phone, my number is 0413 128 248.
Cheers,
Jonno
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13-Nov-07, 07:54 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Vic Age/Gender: 27  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by simesy75 there is enviromental officers onsite it is a legal requirement. but they have not had any contact with snakes.
in WA people come to site and teach you the safe way to capture snake and release them away from the mine just looking for someone over here. definatly not going to employee someone to sit one a mine site to remove one snake a week | It seems almost criminal to have "environmental officers" on site and yet not be trained/suitable for the environment they are working in!
Shouldn't local fauna education be part of the site induction program (especially for environmental officers)? Being situated in an area where wildlife encounters are more common place than in a 'built up area' like a city, your local 'environmental specialist' should know how to handle the occasional appearance of a "snake".
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13-Nov-07, 07:58 PM
|  | Space Cowboy Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Sydney Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mindthesole It seems almost criminal to have "environmental officers" on site and yet not be trained/suitable for the environment they are working in!
Shouldn't local fauna education be part of the site induction program (especially for environmental officers)? Being situated in an area where wildlife encounters are more common place than in a 'built up area' like a city, your local 'environmental specialist' should know how to handle the occasional appearance of a "snake". | ...why?
...people who study Environmental Law wouldn't be trained to relocate snakes...? An architect can design a house, odds are he can't build one... 
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13-Nov-07, 08:05 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: Western Sydney Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mindthesole It seems almost criminal to have "environmental officers" on site and yet not be trained/suitable for the environment they are working in!
Shouldn't local fauna education be part of the site induction program (especially for environmental officers)? Being situated in an area where wildlife encounters are more common place than in a 'built up area' like a city, your local 'environmental specialist' should know how to handle the occasional appearance of a "snake". | Poor simesy.. ask a legitimate question and attempt to resolve an OH&S issue in your workplace and what happens? | 
13-Nov-07, 08:22 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: west wyalong Age: 31 | | | | hi damian i live in west wyalong the mine out here is barrick gold i know for a fact that they just did a venomous sanke handling course a few weeks ago. i dont work for the mine but i know the enviromental officer out there he said the trainers came from south australia . so if you want to give them a call i guess they mite point you in the right direction., sorry i dont have there number
cheers steve | 
13-Nov-07, 08:25 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: west wyalong Age: 31 | | | | i forgot to say if you contact wires they do a course. i just had mine on the weekend. but dont know if they will do mines you would just have to ask. cheers | 
13-Nov-07, 08:31 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Kalamunda, Perth | | | | thanks for that ill have a look into it | 
13-Nov-07, 08:43 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Vic Age/Gender: 27  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Aslan ...why?
...people who study Environmental Law wouldn't be trained to relocate snakes...? An architect can design a house, odds are he can't build one...  | but surely any person/s placed in a position where they would be primarily responsible for dealing with possible if not frequent "environmental" encounters with local fauna, should also be trained responsibly in the 'removal/relocation' of disruptive species. Or is that too much to ask?
Surely if you went for a new job stationed in the middle of' nowhere', as an environmentalist you would research andc be 'informed' of the local hazards and environmental threats and prepare to deal with them in the correct manner ...
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13-Nov-07, 09:00 PM
|  | Space Cowboy Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Sydney Gender:  | | | | ...unless of course it had nothing do with your job description - should this person also trained in unearthing fallen mineshafts? If the mine was located near a large body of water should he be able to remove troublesome crocs? Surely that is an environmental risk with the position...? Sounds like old mate will need to be quite ridiculously trained for this job soon...
...the simple matter of fact is that places such as this REGULARLY have staff trained by professionals in removing snakes from the site. That is how it works...
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Reason: *additional example
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13-Nov-07, 09:27 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Vic Age/Gender: 27  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Aslan ...the simple matter of fact is that places such as this REGULARLY have staff trained by professionals in removing snakes from the site. That is how it works... | thats what i'm saying LOL! why doesn't this 'site' have someone who can handle this situation? surely it didn't start operating yesterday?
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15-Nov-07, 06:42 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Dubbo Age/Gender: 24  | | | | Hey have you worked anything out yet? Wires just held a course at Cobar about 3 weeks ago, they were training some mine people there.
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15-Nov-07, 07:11 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Adelaide Age: 29 | | | Geoff Coombe is your man for the job. That is what he does. He goes all around the world doing that for a living.He just came back from Nepal, where they have the most snake bites in the world.Also he recently went to India to help their miners with the same problem you seem to be having.Hes the best at this sort of thing.
You can E-mail him at gncoombe@picnowl.com.au
or call on 0408 838 043.
or write to: Geoff Coombe, Living with wildlife.
PO box 781 williamstown S.A 5351.
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