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18-Jul-03, 08:20 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Usually on the lounge watching the TV. | | | | I agree with Zoe. I love the look of GTP hatchlings especially after recently seeing 3 of them. They are incredible looking snakes but I love my BHP to pieces. He is a beautiful snake.
I can see what John is saying but to some people money aint the be all and end all of everything. | 
18-Jul-03, 08:21 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Melbourne Age: 18 | | | | IMO, GTP's are beautiful and I would take one over a BHP any day. Don't get me wrong, I like BHP, but not as much as GTPs. | 
18-Jul-03, 08:29 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Sydney | | | Hey all,
After all these opinions im not sure what i want anymore...if only we could have a BHP/GTP hybrid lol not like that will happen.
But if i were to choose either one at same price i am going to go after the GTP as john has clearly stated they not only need very little space are awesome looking and can help you on the way to retirement.
THanks everybody for having interest in one of my first posts
Cheers,  Jeremy  | 
18-Jul-03, 08:34 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: melbourne | | | | so what is too much handling for a GTP then? they're kinda one of my goals to have/breed one day but i can never leave my snake alone so maybe i'd kill it from picking it up too much hehe
are they really high maintenance? like stupidly high maintenance? | 
18-Jul-03, 08:38 PM
| | | | Nooooo,
I'm not saying money is everything in the hobby.But like I said earlier,everyone that replys to this thread will make an issue of costs.So if we are going to look at initial outlay for the purchase why not also look at the permanent investment at the same time! | 
18-Jul-03, 08:39 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sh*t Creek | | | | Hey not sure. But what I have heard from some guys at work is that they are almost impossible to get off a branch.............. | 
18-Jul-03, 08:46 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Sydney | | | | without knowing much about either of them i would have chosen the GTP.
but if i was only allowed to have 1 snake and had to choose between the two, I think i would go for the BHP cause i would probably want to handle the snake and interact with the snake.
from reading the other posts it seems the GTP is kinda quiet and independant. | 
18-Jul-03, 09:02 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney Australia | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by python_guy44 Hey all,
After all these opinions im not sure what i want anymore...if only we could have a BHP/GTP hybrid lol not like that will happen.
But if i were to choose either one at same price i am going to go after the GTP as john has clearly stated they not only need very little space are awesome looking and can help you on the way to retirement.
THanks everybody for having interest in one of my first posts
Cheers,  Jeremy  | If they are the same price then the financial advantage is lost (except for numbers.).
Don't give a rats about space either...I would have an enclosure big enuff for the species. I just think that apart from the colour change whats the point (then again I like snakes with contrasting colours).
Cheers Hawkeye | 
18-Jul-03, 11:39 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | Thats a question that just can't be answered. It's a never ending debate.
I love all my BHPs and while i don't have much experience with GTPs i still think they are the pinicle of australian reptile keeping.
Most of the the GTPs i have seen have be quite relaxed snakes and easily handle but one of the most evil snakes i've ever seen was a green python.
They are fragile as babies and hard to start feeding but once feeding they toughen up and aren't that hard to keep if they are setup properly.
Very few people are in reptile keeping for the money but opportunities come and go and if you don't take them your a fool.
I know if i get the chance to breed GTPs i'll jump on it and then buy a nice car, house , holiday with the money i make. Breeding GTPs is easy money (who doesn't like easy money) if you can do it and would proberly earn you more than most make in a year.
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18-Jul-03, 11:51 PM
| | | | Well said no-one.
While GTP are easily handled and may be very placid my suggestion is to handle as little as possible.They are more or less a display animal IMO. | 
18-Jul-03, 11:59 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | Yeap, i'd be scared i'd drop it or something. I'd have a booby trapped cage and a really big gun as well.
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19-Jul-03, 03:48 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney | | | | I love the looks of the GTP, but I like to get up close, personal and 'cuddly' with my little babies... that would not be in the best ineterests of a GTP (to the best of my knowledge), so I would prefer the BHP... and besides, they are damned good looking all on their own.
Again, I do believe it is a matter of personal preference, with monetary value aside. 5K is not a huge amount if you are committed, willing to save over time, and that's what you really want, but I would vote the BHP... | 
19-Jul-03, 03:15 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Detroit, MI USA | | | | It would depend on what I was going for at the time. If I wanted a display snake/setup, GTP because they just look wicked coiled up on a branch like that. I'd setup up a natural looking environment with maybe some type of waterfall to keep the humidity up and for the aesthetics of it. I've seen some really cool displays like that at petshops and stuff. Would be cool for in the living room or foyer.
If I was looking for a pet, no doubt about it I'd go BHP. Also, for a little twist on the money thing, here in the US, BHP are over 4x more expensive than GTPs. So BHP wins for investment value too.
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19-Jul-03, 04:13 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | That still makes me laugh.
What the main reason for BHPs being so expensive? Is it just because of demand or do you guys have difficultly breeding them over there?
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20-Jul-03, 02:10 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Detroit, MI USA | | | | Um. Try the fact that Australia has the strictest wildlife export laws in the world. More of a supply problem than demand issue. Almost all the GTP are from Indonesia, not Australia. Anything from Indonesia is a dime a dozen, so to speak.
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