Why is everything illegal in wa?!??!?!?!??!?

[Snowman]

i have been told that WA back in the day when they decided keeping herps was going to be the best state being aloud to keep nearly 300 species from most of aus ? then they cut it down again and again and again

Doesn't sound right. A handful of people fought for 10 years to get a reptile keeping system approved. They had to form a herp society to be taken seriously so WASAH was formed for the sole purpose of getting pet reptiles legalised. WASAH gave CALM a great keeping system as part of their proposal and CALM cut it up and gave us the crap system we have today. A system where you cant even move or give away an animal without paying a dealer $50... A system that promotes wild taking over captive breeding. A system that restricts the number of clutches keepers can sell to a dealer. A system that doesn't allow python import (despite there never being a case Australia wide of disease from pet pythons spreading to wild populations)....
I doubt 300 species was ever really on the cards. The people in charge have stated that "reptiles are the currency of criminals". And we still get treated with that mentality....

[LizardLover820]

WAHS? whats that? I WANA JOINNN

lol everyones telling me to move, well I can't I'm still a kid :p

[Snowman]

WAHS - Meetings & Directions

http://www.wahs.org.au/wahsmembershipform.pdf

[Niall]

Snowy, Ill send you the original list B. Bush sent me, that they gave to DEC and that's what DEC chopped in half around 4 times.

[Snowman]

Yeah I've seen that list Niall. Like the original submission that WAHS put in it has no real reflection on what DEC decided to do. When you look at our latest submission in full before it was reduced to 6 it looks like history repeating itself doesnt it.
They have us over a barrel and they love it!

[Niall]

Sure does!
Its bloody annoying!

[Snowman]

Sure is!!! Wish there was a legal way to challenge the system. I wrote to DEC licensing recently after Matt Swan was quoted in the paper saying there are over 4500 reptile licenses in WA. How are 24 dealers supposed to be able to meet the demand of that many keepers? There should be a form that we can send in directly to DEC to move animals. I told them I couldnt find a dealer and all they said in their response was, here is a list of the 24 dealers in WA, it's illegal to move an animal without going through a dealer. So if you live in the middle of nowhere in WA ( a state the size of qld, nsw and Vic all together), where there is no dealer around for miles and miles how do you move an an animal to a friend or someone?
If I could change one thing about this system it would be having to sell/move/trade through a dealer... I gave a hatchie to a mate the other day. To give a snake away you still have to pay $50 to a dealer... It really **** me!

Edit..
Huh just noticed that SH_T is not *** out if you write it in capitols with an s at the end. I had to put the stars in myself!

Are you back from up north Niall or are you yet to go?

[Niall]

Got to love DEC -_-
yeah im back in town, found some nice stuff whiles I was up, got photos just haven't had time to upload them (too lazy)

[Rocky]

Probably don't want to admit that with your account linked to your facebook lol...never know who's watching and needs to meet a quota!


What I really don't understand about WA is the insane movement permit costs for animals

Eh they can come at me. If any police need a quota met, come around! Can't arrest me for posts on a forum.

[Lizzy90]

I think it was last year some people put a petition out to DEC to increase the list and they said that they weren't planing to do it any time soon

Pretty sure there is a discussion somewhere on hear about it.

I know at the Armadale Reptile Centre they have been fighting for a few years to get a few species in, one being a GTP and they are having a hard time with it.

[dragonlover1]

You could always move. That would fix your problem.

that would fix the WA govt.every body move out haha

Doesn't sound right. A handful of people fought for 10 years to get a reptile keeping system approved. They had to form a herp society to be taken seriously so WASAH was formed for the sole purpose of getting pet reptiles legalised. WASAH gave CALM a great keeping system as part of their proposal and CALM cut it up and gave us the crap system we have today. A system where you cant even move or give away an animal without paying a dealer $50... A system that promotes wild taking over captive breeding. A system that restricts the number of clutches keepers can sell to a dealer. A system that doesn't allow python import (despite there never being a case Australia wide of disease from pet pythons spreading to wild populations)....
I doubt 300 species was ever really on the cards. The people in charge have stated that "reptiles are the currency of criminals". And we still get treated with that mentality....

while "reptiles are the currency of criminals".the criminals are the only ones with any reptiles while the honest people go without same as with guns

[Bluetongue1]

You guys crack me up!