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30-May-08, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 888lowndes888  i wouldnt take one even if it were free. |
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30-May-08, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BROWNS Maybe a high yellow black and gold x reduced pattern proserpine at least there may be something special come from a cross like that??? | LOL... |
30-May-08, 05:39 PM
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Interesting statement I must admit, where does it say that ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Australis Wow... amazing website.. i see Jungles are in fact the result of natural crossing between Carpets
and Chondros;....... amazing... !!! |
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30-May-08, 05:44 PM
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Browns.... can you please explain further how a md x albino, or B&W jungle x albino darwin would create a snow..... sounds very interesting.
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30-May-08, 05:53 PM
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Here Here! I agree, I think it's an inevitable future and I think some of the morph in the US are absolutely stunning! If it's done responsibly and buyers know exactly what they're getting I think it's fine. Where have all our 'pure' species come from over the last few million years anyway? I can appreciate a beautiful snake for exactly that. As long as it's healthy - something that isn't a given from 'pure' breeders either! Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy K. I also think that Australia will follow the Yanks in the designer snakes which doesn't bother me that much if it is left up to the expierenced snake breeders who would breed for a specific trait and know what they are doing. What does worry me is the inexpierenced breeders just mixing this with that with no real goal in sight. JMO. | |
30-May-08, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by boa Interesting statement I must admit, where does it say that ? | He could be referring to this: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...=31123&page=12
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30-May-08, 08:19 PM
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Thanks, I was actually referring to this statement "i see Jungles are in fact the result of natural crossing between Carpets
and Chondros;....... amazing... !!! "
I noticed Jungle/GTP hybrids were on the list but I can't see any mention of anyone thinking Jungles were the result of crossing carpets and Greens. I am just genuinely interested in why someone would say that.
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30-May-08, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by boa Interesting statement I must admit, where does it say that ? | The link you posted to someones site/forum.... had this little pearl of wisdom.. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Yasser PJ, you are not the first to say or wonder that.
Some folks have a hunch that all Jungles may have developed their high yellow color by basically being a coastal with a small amount of GTP blood in them from distant past naturally hybrid occurances. Seems feasible to me.
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Well, its not feasible to me, or many people i would hope! Its totally laughable.
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30-May-08, 10:46 PM
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*sigh* some people! wonder whats next, diamonds come from green trees x coastals x spotteds
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31-May-08, 07:14 AM
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Who are you to say if such is not the case? Like I said, it is feasible. Not laughable. That shot in the dark was actually the passing thought of a well known American Python breeder. The fact that some here can't even fathom, let alone entertain the rather remote concept shows how close minded some people are when they feel they KNOW how their beloved favorite species evolved. With the minds that have already been made up here, I can't compete. It's too bad really because these mindsets are what the new generation of Aussie herp keepers and herp proponents are going to have to deal with. You can't learn when your mind is closed.
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31-May-08, 08:30 AM
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Just sounds like a possible scenario that may or may not have occured, I have heard far more laughable things on here to be honest 
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31-May-08, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Yasser That shot in the dark was actually the passing thought of a well known American Python breeder. |
Being a successful reptile breeder doesn't make someone a genetic biologist and it is un-scientific comments like that (probably taken out of context anyway) which make the hobby go backwards not forwards.
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31-May-08, 09:14 AM
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I'm not sure how it can be detrimental to the hobby. It seems to me it was a 'chat' between a couple of people on a forum and was quite possibly as you say taken completely out of context. Are we now going to stop people theorising on forums ? If that is the case APS had better shut it's doors now.
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31-May-08, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by boa I'm not sure how it can be detrimental to the hobby. |
Because people will use it as justification to throw things together randomly in the hope of producing 'Super hypo white ghost nickel plated spider woowoo frogs'.
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31-May-08, 12:46 PM
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Hey just been reading all these posts.
I'm interested in this as I like the way people are saying it won't or shouldn't ever happen here.
But by hearing the way people are talking about this I'd say that it has already started to occur even if only in small amounts in Australia.
I'll probally get beasted for this but I agree that it will happen alot more in the future.People want what they want and I am sorry to say they will have there designer animals.
It happened in the states and anyone who thinks that it won't happen here in years to come is kidding themselves.
Oh and it makes me laugh as I bet there are a few people on here who say they are against it, but when it happens will be in there breeding everything they have to make money and be in on it,saying they were always for it.
If there is a demand, which there will be then sorry but it is going to happen eventually.
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