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31-May-08, 07:07 PM
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will be interesting to see whre this hobby goes in this country, as i have mentioned i dont condone these breedings but some do look 'interesting'. i do belive that many breeders on this site and on others will venture down the designer hybrid path in the future, i reckon some already are and are keeping quite about it.
time will tell, but i can see many of us looking back at these coments and having a laugh one day.
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01-Jun-08, 10:30 AM
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Come on guys, i looked at those pics....What's not to love about those little snakes. Yes the 'pure' forms are beautiful but so are these. There is room for both 'pure' and 'crosses' in the industry. I personally don't cross, but would certainly buy one of these. For those of you who say that you wouldn't have one if it were given to you are kidding yourselves.
How many of you out there own a mixed breed dog or moggie cat? You chose them and love them... don't you?
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01-Jun-08, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by manchild Come on guys, i looked at those pics....What's not to love about those little snakes. | I'm sure this argument has been repeated ad nauseum but .....
It's not about the good looking ones with a known lineage. It's about the marginal ones which end up on the market as pure animals and which invariably taint the pure lines. If I want to buy a pure animal in 10 years time how can I be sure that's what it is?
DNA testing may be the answer to this but a lot of testing needs to be done before we establish pure species benchmarks.
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01-Jun-08, 03:36 PM
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not quite the same but i saw bedli X diamonds on herptrader the other day, i thought that was odd. asking quite a bit for them too, is this a new cross? i guess they were cool markings but i'd still have the pure of either over them
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01-Jun-08, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nagraj I'm sure this argument has been repeated ad nauseum but .....
It's not about the good looking ones with a known lineage. It's about the marginal ones which end up on the market as pure animals and which invariably taint the pure lines. If I want to buy a pure animal in 10 years time how can I be sure that's what it is?
DNA testing may be the answer to this but a lot of testing needs to be done before we establish pure species benchmarks. | You don't get these problems with carpondros. So far they have only ever been bred back to a parent species a very few times but have been the sickliest and ugliest looking things on Earth. I would put money on them being so unwell that there will be no market for 2nd gen carpondros if they can be produced at all.
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01-Jun-08, 03:42 PM
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i guess they're like the designer cross dogs then. good breeders won't cross say a two Pug X Cavaliers (Pugaliers) they'll take the Pugalaier and cross it with a pure of either side producing a 2nd generation Pugalier which will be 3/4 something. they do this because beeding the two crosses produces a really low survival rate in the pups basically due to genetics gone wrong
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01-Jun-08, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by waruikazi You don't get these problems with carpondros. So far they have only ever been bred back to a parent species a very few times but have been the sickliest and ugliest looking things on Earth. I would put money on them being so unwell that there will be no market for 2nd gen carpondros if they can be produced at all. | I agree & tried to make a similar point earlier. Well said waruikazi.
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01-Jun-08, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Owzi I agree & tried to make a similar point earlier. Well said waruikazi. | After looking at some pics i reckon i might give it a go one of these years now lol.
I might even try a nightiger x GTS too lol.
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01-Jun-08, 05:24 PM
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(QUOTE) It's not about the good looking ones with a known lineage. It's about the marginal ones which end up on the market as pure animals and which invariably taint the pure lines. If I want to buy a pure animal in 10 years time how can I be sure that's what it is?
DNA testing may be the answer to this but a lot of testing needs to be done before we establish pure species benchmarks.[/quote]
That's easy, buy your snakes from a reputable breeder that has spent years building a good reputation.
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03-Jun-08, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spilota_variegata I'd love to see what the albino carpochondros would look like. I bet they'd be a stunning looking snake - albeit very illegal  Thanks for the answer Larks. | Wouldn't they just be white??
I think that most aussies are just protective over their loved, native species and prefer to keep them pure! Certainly not being closed - minded.
Whereas the USA have no native pythons, so their inbuilt protectiveness of keeping the species pure is not always there. JMO!!!
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04-Jun-08, 07:44 AM
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The head of the nail, may very well have been hit. Quote:
Originally Posted by GARTHNFAY Wouldn't they just be white??
I think that most aussies are just protective over their loved, native species and prefer to keep them pure! Certainly not being closed - minded.
Whereas the USA have no native pythons, so their inbuilt protectiveness of keeping the species pure is not always there. JMO!!! |
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05-Jun-08, 11:45 AM
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Thanks for that thumbs up cockney red.
When you think about it logically, why would they be passionate about keeping pythons pure??
I am sure that they would be passionate if we were trying to hybridise the bald headed eagle??  
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