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18-May-05, 01:19 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-04 Location: Melbourne | | | | RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: only in america by the way that is a very nice looking snake craiga.c.
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18-May-05, 02:12 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Cairns | | | | RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: only in america Quote: |
Line breeding sure, i can handl that but intentionally crossing two recognised species is insanity, what happens if they escape!
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The same thing that happens when a coastal escapes in Murray Darling territory, it either survives and pollutes the gene pool or dies.,
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18-May-05, 02:36 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Location: Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada | | | | You guys wouldn't believe the crosses that I've seen hatch out lately. I know most people there don't believe in hybrids and fair enough. I have a fairly different veiw of them. I was talking to one of the big breeders in the U.S., and they told me about a jcp/retic cross they are incubating eggs from. Can't wait to see those! The same breeders this year produced a woma/irian jaya carpet cross. Wild stuff being done. Even a couple I'm sworn to secrecy about.
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18-May-05, 02:59 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-05 Location: Bairnsdale, Victoria Age: 24 | | | Frankly I think such big crosses (like totally different families) is stupid. Ah well not much can do about it. 
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18-May-05, 03:34 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | SOA, I wouldn't say most here don't agree, the more vocal don't agree but when you talk to people one on one the majority seem quite willing to accept them, I love them, I love colour morphs, the whole lot. As has been said, if you like them buy them and if you don't like them don't buy them.
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18-May-05, 05:59 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Perth Age/Gender: 22  | | | | retic/jcp jesus i wouldent think that would even be possible there has to be some lab work involved could a jcp really try and mate a mature retic??? arnt hatchling retics close to the same size as adult jcp's
ud think one would be on the menu instead of in the bedroom..... same for carpets n woma's | 
18-May-05, 06:27 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Location: Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada | | | Here's a link to the woma/irian jaya carpet cross. http://www.newenglandreptile.com/for...pic.php?t=1615 Quote:
retic/jcp jesus i wouldent think that would even be possible there has to be some lab work involved could a jcp really try and mate a mature retic??? arnt hatchling retics close to the same size as adult jcp's
ud think one would be on the menu instead of in the bedroom.....
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18-May-05, 06:28 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | A hatchling Retic is somewhere under 3 feet in length but if they use dwarf retics like those found on some Indonesian Islands then it isn't too far fetched. A retic doesn't have to be 25 feet long to be mature.
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18-May-05, 07:17 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | Unfortunately you need to subscribe to the forum to see the photo's. Could you post a link to the dealer that created the snake or even post a photo on here ?
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18-May-05, 07:26 PM
| | Moderator Moderator | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Sydney, NSW,Australia | | | Boa,
Just cut and paste the link, and then remove all the crap : IE: /forums......phpetc...
So: www.newenglandreptile.com is what your left with.
Or type it out as I have , whatevers easier.
Hope it helps.
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18-May-05, 07:35 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | Thanks Neil,
I couldn't find the photo's of the snake in question but I did find loads of others and I shouldn't have looked. There some amazing snakes on there. :-(
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19-May-05, 09:26 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-05 Location: Newcastle | | | | I always thought herping was about conservation and love of the animals.
If you have to build your own animals then you don't love them from a conservation side.
I'm not picking on anyone, just airing my opinion.
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19-May-05, 10:05 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | No that's fair enough, I don't think many on this forum have anything to do with conservation though, private keepers have little or no impact on wild populations either from the taking side or replenishing dwindling populations.
Conservation is of major importance to me but keeping captive reptiles is done for the love of it, very few of us have animals that could ever be released into the wild. I think it is best not to confuse private keepers with conservation.
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