Albino Darwin Carpets = Albino jungles/diamonds etc

[Jonny]

OK here's one for the genetics experts.

If someone crossed one of Simon Stone's Albino Darwin Carpets with say a jungle or diamond creating hetrozygous offspring and then bred these to produce Albino Darwin x Jungle pythons. Subsequent breedings back with homozygous normal jungles(hence hetrozygous offspring) and breeding these to produce homozygous albinos (doing this many times) would dilute the Darwin blood over the generations but you would now have the albino gene in a somewhat impure jungle line.

Is this possible to do?????
This could possibly be done with other carpets such as bredli, coastals etc???

NB this is a hypothetical question and in no way to I condone the practice of cross breeding of the Carpet subspecies.

Just a thought

Jonny

ps I hope this post makes sense

[farmdog]

why would you even think this

[Jonny]

just a question of genetics

[Kenshin]

you can bet ur left testy that someone is already doing it

[sarahbell]

give it 5yrs or so and there will be albinos of all capets if they do this

[boa]

Were do I put my name down ?

Originally Posted by sarahbell

give it 5yrs or so and there will be albinos of all capets if they do this

[farmdog]

I doubt that the darwin gene will completely gone from the jungle line as I take that every genetic trait is carried to all offspring and then so on through the generation.

many times) would dilute the Darwin blood over the generations but you would now have the albino gene in a somewhat impure jungle line.

[craig.a.c]

I thought that hybrids (which these would be being crossed) couldn't breed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jonny]

Originally Posted by farmdog

I take that every genetic trait is carried to all offspring and then so on through the generation.

Offspring will only carry 50% of each of its parents genetic information

[Kenshin]

no only hybrids that are to far apart in the family tree because it is an un-natural stretch into a family that just is to anatomicly different

carpets are all in the family morelia so they should be physicly sound however if you were to breed morelia to lasis then you would have problems....... i belive we should be trying to keep our captive populations as pure as possible regardless of colour morphs

[craig.a.c]

I am against any forms of cross breeding, even if its to get nicer colours and markings. Everyone should be happy with the way they are. Natural is beautiful.

[boa]

I will wade into this although it is probably unwise :-) I like most of the "new" colour variants and can't see a problem with crosses for better colour/ pattern or whatever BUT they must always be advertised as such. There is a place for both and has been said before in different forums how many of us know the EXACT parentage of all our animals ? I would hazzard a guess and say a fairly small % would. Right or wrong, good or bad these animals are here to stay, those of us who like them will buy them and the others wont. That's what is so good about free choice.

[BROWNS]

Is this possible to do?????

Certainly is possible to do but the albino gene comes from the darwin so no matter what you breed an albino with and then breed it with something else there will still be a percentage of animals carrying the albino gene"not all" and yes the Darwin gene pool in that line will be diluted ,although there are plenty of Darwins around.

And Jonny is correct that the offspring are exactly half of the mother and father if that makes sense?

We will soon be seein all sorts of designer snakes within at least 5 years minimum.I wonder what you'd get crossing an albino with a black and white jungle?I would guess you would eventually get an all white carpet.The same with black and golds you would probably eventually get all sorts of colours ranging from,gold to high gold,yellow,safron yellow,pink,high yellow etc and then come the big diversity in pattern from the jungles as well....all very interesting stuff...can't wait to see who does it first and as has been said i'm sure someone wil be close to doing this already.Remember the first lot of albinos would be just over a year old,but then you would need another 3-4 years to produce albinos of the cross that had been done"then"depending if you used a male albino and successfully put him across 6 other different morelia and then bred from their het offspring you would get one big lucky dip of designers snakes.

It's going to happen wether you like it or not,if you don't like it don't buy anything albino related or crossed...."simple"

[fly2high]

just another question on this subject.
Albino gene in snake is it recessive?
Reason why I'm asking as it is in birds sex link recessive which means that if you are to breed an albino male bird to a normal coloured female all offspring will be -- Albino females and males carrying albino gene and if you are to breed other way around only the males will be carrying albino gene(not visual) and females will be normal coloured
Just asking as I'm interested

[Hix]

Originally Posted by fly2high

as it is in birds sex link recessive which means that if you are to breed an albino male bird to a normal coloured female all offspring will be -- Albino females and males carrying albino gene and if you are to breed other way around only the males will be carrying albino gene(not visual) and females will be normal coloured

What birds are you talking about? That's certainly not the case in parrots.



Hix