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22-Jan-08, 11:07 AM
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Hi Everyone,i Have 3 Hatchling Beardies, They All Started Off Very Healthy Dragons. Then Something Happened To One Of Them And Now He Wont Use His Back Legs At All, Then Yesterday The Same Thing Has Happened To Another One....they Still Eat Fine, But Seem Very Lathargic.any Information Would Be Very Appreciated.thanks
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22-Jan-08, 11:09 AM
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Do you dust their food with calcium, and do you use a UV light?
Also, what size food do they eat?
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22-Jan-08, 11:10 AM
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Impaction?
Do you kee them on sand or something like it?
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22-Jan-08, 11:32 AM
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No there on no sand, and i dont have a uv light constantly on them, but i take them outside and put them under another tank uv light every couple of days.
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22-Jan-08, 11:32 AM
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and they have small crickets, and vegies choped up finally, but no calcium
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22-Jan-08, 11:33 AM
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What size food do they get, is it smaller than the space between their eyes?
And do you dust their food with calcium?
How old are they, how long have you had them, etc... more details would help.
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22-Jan-08, 11:54 AM
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What type of outside habitat do you use?
U.V!!!!!!!!!! they need more than a couple of hours per day........
even if you dust with calcium every feed they wont be able to get enough
Go to your local reptile supply shop & get .....T-REX ,SOLAR DROPS...its a liquid UVB
1 drop pr beardie for the next 3 days (no more than that!!!!)will help immediatley...keep the calcium up for the next week at least
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22-Jan-08, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ambrose001  and they have small crickets, and vegies choped up finally, but no calcium | They need calcium http://www.reptilemedicine.com.au/artic.html
The symptoms and the lack of calcium add up to MBD (Metabolic Bone Disease)
I have supplied one link but you can search this site or Google and you will get heaps more info.
This is urgent and you need to get calcium straight away.
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22-Jan-08, 03:45 PM
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have they been pooping?
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22-Jan-08, 04:01 PM
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sounds like metabolic bone disease or back leg paraliysis impaction.
food, uv or subsrate related.
solar drops 'may' (debatable) help with D3, but without calcium, the d3 is unused.
get some rep-cal calcium with d3 suppliments, dust food 2/3 feeds a day, 5 times a week. and use the rep-cal herptivitamin multivitamin 2/3 feedings once a week.
get a good uv souce, a reptisun 10.0 or a reptiglo 8.0 get them within 8 inches of these when basking etc. etc.
i also suggest a mesh vivarium, covered half by a towel, and let them sun for a few hours daily in good weather.
havign three, you will also most likely experience problems soon or later in life, dominance, breeding, siblings? fights? stress? you should plan ahead for seperate enclosures..
all of the above should be done in order to help, or prevent mbd or a calcium/d3 related deficiency.
now, if its impaction or back leg paralysis. you should take the dragont o the vet to see if it is either mbd, impaction or somethign else. x-rays may need to be done.
i suggest bathign in luke warm (like a baby's bath) in shallow water, gently massage the stomach downward. the warm water, small waves and massaging will help pooping, and may ease the impaction if any. a drop or two of olive oil in his mouth will also help. keep his fluid up 
try not to feed melaworms, they are known for poor nutrition and impaction risks, if your feeding these. stop now, they will worsen his condition. feed easily digestible foods. for now i suggest chicken or vegetable baby food, with the calcium + d3 and multivit mxed in.
apple sauce is also a good treat, and will help smooth his stomache and loosen up his stools.
the vet is a good thing, try find a reptile vet. if not find one who will call a reptile vet for advice they are both trained, yet some will go out on a limb and assume.question everything, and ask up front if they can call a trained reptile veterinarian. they should know the one in sydney and i beleive theres a few in melborune etc. etc.
again, please purchase the items i have listed, they are vital (well the apple sauce is a handy trick) but uv and suppliments are a must.
good luck, let us know how he goes.. feel free to PM me.
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22-Jan-08, 09:38 PM
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Thanks so much everyone, i will get on to this ASAP, does anyone know if its reversable? god i hope so, They are about 1 mth old, and they are only getting small crickets and fine cut up vegies.Thanks very much.
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23-Jan-08, 07:56 AM
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23-Jan-08, 01:01 PM
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Hey,one of my little beardies died today.
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23-Jan-08, 01:06 PM
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I think you need to start giving them calcium and a UV light for 12-14 hours per day.
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23-Jan-08, 01:17 PM
|  | freaky snake Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: HIDING BEHIND THE FISH TANK! Age/Gender: 25 | | | It's strange how common MBD actually is!!!  ....so many people don't seem to realise that every reptile needs UV .... When you GET them under uv ambrose001 (an i'd do it quickly) make sure it's within 20 odd cm from the dragons an dose em up ASAP with calcium and vitamin powder.
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