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View Poll Results: Heat and Uv for blue tongues. | |
Heat alone
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Uv Alone
|    | 2 | 5.00% | |
Both heat and UV
|    | 28 | 70.00% | |
Nothing
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Other (specify)
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27-Jan-08, 07:21 PM
|  | Jellybean Club Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-06 Location: Hobbiton, Middle Earth. Gender:  | | | | [quote=serenaphoenix;1061161]That, in my personal opinion is crap.
You don't get bone disease from heating... it's the same in humans - if you don't get enough calcium (or don't absorb calcium properly) then you get osteoporosis... bone disease.
Heating plays a huge part in a reptiles calcium levels, no if's or buts about that.
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27-Jan-08, 07:26 PM
|  | Subscriber | | | | | so the uv light magicly brakes down calsium and sends it where its needed......
reptiles use heat, the hotter they are the quicker they break down food.
to brake calium down and absorb it they need heat because they are reptiles not humans
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27-Jan-08, 07:44 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-07 Location: Queensland Gender:  | | | | you need D3 to absorb the calcium - you need heat to break down food, but it's the vitamins and minerals that help to absorb the vital components within that food - it's not that hard to break down almost pure calcium when you're powdering insects... which is where they get most of their calcium from.
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27-Jan-08, 07:47 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-07 Location: Queensland Gender:  | | | | yes jason - absolutely, heat is vital
but the statement was improper heat is the cause of MBD....
it is not THE cause, it's part of the cause... because you need to be able to digest CALCIUM... which is THE cause...
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27-Jan-08, 07:52 PM
|  | Subscriber | | | | | i dont dust anything with calcium, i just feed lots of pinkies.
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27-Jan-08, 07:55 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-07 Location: Queensland Gender:  | | | haha, they must have little lizard treadmills to keep the weight off then eh tristis?
hey, if it works for you - but i think you probably have a bit more experience than those you're giving advice to... 
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27-Jan-08, 08:03 PM
|  | Subscriber | | | | | yeah it keeps em busy
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28-Jan-08, 12:17 PM
|  | Willia6 fan Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Victoria Gender:  | | | | I've kept ewds inside with no UV for over 10years and never taken them outside and no MBD or any other problems.
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28-Jan-08, 12:39 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: SouthAustralia Gender:  | | | | JasonL.....you keep your outside & inside... if you didnt use U.V, how many hrs per day of sun or total per week
Rosemary.... you dont use lighting at all? sorry if i read wrong....at 1yr what is your male & female sizes of dragons
im curious as many have said that this will affect the growth & keepers im surveying the differance between you & i in size
as i have used U.V & heat & supplements& mine havent been outside more that 2 weeks total in the past year because of my health restrictions. please dont crucify me! | 
28-Jan-08, 01:15 PM
|  | Jellybean Club Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-06 Location: Hobbiton, Middle Earth. Gender:  | | | | I kept all my dragons for 5 years totally inside without any UV, bred about 600 with UV free dragons, raised about 20 of them to adulthood like that. It was only this year they are getting the full UV treatment, all but my holdback hatchies, which I'll raise without UV. The Blueys I've kept were raised indoors till they were adults.
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