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22-Apr-04, 08:07 PM
|  | Regular Member | | | | Just wanted to know if breeders choice is people's preference to use this as there substrate? also if you feed your reptiles in the cage with this substrate will they swallow it? also if they do swallow it will it harm them? as i was seriously thinking about using this as my substrate from now on.
would love every ones opinions on this subject.
Cheers Ricky
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22-Apr-04, 08:20 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | | Ricko,
I have used it for years and have found it great. Never had any problems with feeding my snakes on it. | 
22-Apr-04, 08:25 PM
|  | Regular Member | | | | | do you feed your snakes in there enclosure with the breeders choice? are lizards good with breeders choice
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22-Apr-04, 08:39 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | I've been using it for years as well and never had a problem with, i feed all my snakes on it, i have seen them swallow and it has never cause any problems. It's only paper.
Theres always people who say it can hurt or kill them if they swallow it but i'm yet to hear anyone say BC killed MY snake, it's always a friend.
Small snakes are even less likely to swallow it than larger snakes as their mouths are smaller and pellets can't fit as well as food.
BC is great for lots of different lizards, the only ones i don't use it for are frillies. | 
22-Apr-04, 08:48 PM
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I use Breeders Choice, which could cause impaction if they swallow some.
Think about this, breeders choice is a recycled newspaper substrate. Snakes have very strong stomach acids. Newspaper would be extremely easily digested by a snake, i would not be worried about your substrate causing impaction unless you are using a very tough substance like pebbles or sand. I hope that also answers your question luke.
I posted this under the topic "feed time", and i guess it applies here too.
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22-Apr-04, 08:50 PM
|  | Regular Member | | | | | sounds like i will be switching to bc very soon. thanks everyone.
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22-Apr-04, 09:06 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Newcastle, NSW | | | | I can say MYSELF (not a friend) that my Eastern Bearded Dragon who is only 1 year old (as of January) HAS swallowed BC while eating roaches at feeding time. He has no impaction problems and has done this on a few occasions over the past 4 or 5 months.
Of course it's not desirable for him to be eating it, but it does not harm him one bit.
Simon Archibald | 
22-Apr-04, 09:09 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: North Brisbane Metro | | | | Whats impaction ?
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22-Apr-04, 09:12 PM
|  | Regular Member | | | | | thank you simon. seeing as alot of people use it i will try it.looks alot better than paper as well.
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22-Apr-04, 09:19 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: melbourne | | | | impaction = blockage in the gut | 
22-Apr-04, 09:21 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Newcastle, NSW | | | | Impaction is a blockage tha prevents your reptile from going to the toilet easily. When the faeces forms a hard stool.
Ricko, I should also mention that I have a problem using BC for any small dragon (eg the Painted Dragons I keep which get around 5-7cm SVL) and other hatchling dragons (eg Water Dragons / Bearded Dragons, etc). This is only a problem at feeding time IF I feed them on the breeders choice. The problem is that if you put a bunch of roaches or crickets in and the dragons don't take them straight away, the insects very quickly bury themselves in the BC and the lizards don't get a feed.
Obviously, I tried feeding them in a separate container on just paper towel, but all the small dragons (especially the Painted and Waters) were incredibly frightened by the actual process of moving them that they wouldn't eat anyway in the separate container.
For this reason I will be using paper towel for beardies / waters hatchies in the future and sand for the Painteds (because they naturally burrow a lot more).
This of course won't be a problem for you if you are only keeping snakes though. Sorry 'bout the long reply, hope this helps.
Simon Archibald | 
22-Apr-04, 09:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: North Brisbane Metro | | | Thanks simon and zoe 
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22-Apr-04, 09:29 PM
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22-Apr-04, 09:31 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | Ricko,
I use it in all my snake enclosures, and I feed all my snakes on it also. Never had a problem with it. It some cases it can dry out the humidity in an enclosure and cause some shedding problems. If a snake is effected simply supply a wider water bowl.
As for lizards, I never use it with insect eating species for the reasons Simon stated. Its okay with herbavour lizards though, as friut salad has trouble digging tunnels  | 
22-Apr-04, 09:59 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by bigguy ... It some cases it can dry out the humidity in an enclosure ... | This is the only problem with BC I've found. |  | | |