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29-Mar-08, 11:53 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Townsville, QLD Age/Gender: 18  | | | Tonight I decided to go for a walk and kinda half-heartedly look for some herps... on one road, a friend and walked partially down, then turned around and started to come back. We noticed a snake on its back, with a very, very pale belly; only reason we saw it was because it was nearly white (it was a very, very dark road) unfortunately it had been hit by a car.
is it a brown snake? Attachment 47431 Attachment 47432 Attachment 47433
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29-Mar-08, 11:56 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 14  | | | im no expert
but its brown in colour so i say yes  | 
30-Mar-08, 12:40 AM
| | | | i'd say slatey grey. it's not a brown | 
30-Mar-08, 12:42 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: central vic. Age/Gender: 56  | | | | Brown Snake? I reckon it's an Eastern Small-eyed snake, {Cryptophis nigrescens}
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30-Mar-08, 12:47 AM
|  | Willia6 fan Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Victoria Gender:  | | | | Definitely not a brown.
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30-Mar-08, 12:48 AM
| | | | you'd be doing well to get an eastern small eye with a white belly | 
30-Mar-08, 12:52 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Townsville, QLD Age/Gender: 18  | | | | mhmm I really dunno much about snakes unless theyre pythons, as you can see!
it was only a light olive colour, certainly not dark coloured.. no orangey spots on the belly (as is described for eastern browns, so now i realise that was wrong) and it was a smooth, pale cream belly, no other colours on the belly untill you got to the tail, which had some brown underneath
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30-Mar-08, 01:53 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-06 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | It's got a loreal scale, so it's definitely a colubrid. I'm with flinders - I'm pretty sure it's a slaty-grey snake.
I've never seen an eastern small-eyed snake with a white belly, but they certainly come with cream bellies.
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30-Mar-08, 02:32 AM
|  | Sdaji Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Victoria | | | | It's definitely a Slatey-grey.
I saw a Small-eyed Snake last year which had a pure white belly. It was a mutant of some type, possibly a caramel (T+) albino. It had dark eyes and a light beige body.
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30-Mar-08, 07:10 AM
|  | Impatient Snake Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Sydney Gender:  | | | Shadow - If you're not sure, the simplest way to tell a Brown is a speckled belly - of course if it was a Brown (and in better shape) I wouldnt be in a rush to lift him up and check...in this situation easy though 
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30-Mar-08, 07:36 AM
|  | Jellybean Club Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-06 Location: Hobbiton, Middle Earth. Gender:  | | | | Hey, at least your getting out and finding a few things now, though looks like you were1/2 hour too late to see that slatey at it's best.
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30-Mar-08, 08:01 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | | Slatey Grey for sure. Very light coloured specimen though. Normally they are grey to black on top. | 
30-Mar-08, 09:07 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Sydney | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Shonfield im no expert
but its brown in colour so i say yes  | Brown snakes are not always brown!!
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30-Mar-08, 09:16 AM
| | | | Definatley not a brown. | 
30-Mar-08, 09:28 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Townsville, QLD Age/Gender: 18  | | | Awesome, slatey grey it is!
Thanks guys  just wish he hadn't been hit  I think we missed him by a matter of 5mins or so, literally. because we had just walked another, what, 100-200m up the road before turning around and going back the other direction, which was when we saw him. So he would have had to have been nearish to the road.
Do slatey greys have any dangerous effects if they bite, or is it safe to handle them?
Edit: did another search to find some info on slateys, as i've never heard of them before. So theyre not dangerous to people (do they still have a nasty bite?) and supposedly they can be seen after it rains? because I went outside last night soon after it rained, and everything was wet. I think this guy would have been about 1.3m or so?
Below is a para on slateys... this guy def didnt seem to be grey (I know, colour isnt good to ID a snake because they vary so much) and was more of an olive colour, but his body was definately white
"Slatey grey snakes are often found near water and are more
likely to be seen at night or after rain. Their backs generally
range from grey to black in colour and their belly is very
striking glossy white. They are defensive by nature and caution
should be taken.
Length to 1.5m."
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