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16-Oct-07, 09:27 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: Crestmead, brisbane Gender:  | | | LOOK in not here to start a war ok,
i have just seen some overseas pics of cross breeding, and i am wanting to know if its done here. now i have read threads that people say no no no and thats all cool, but i have seen for sale jungle x coastals, and was wondering if anyone has pics of cross breeding.
and im not looking to start a debate on it as i can see its been do alot, just wanting to know whats been done
also pic of albinos bread with normals etc
thanks
ashley | 
16-Oct-07, 09:33 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: CQ | | | | If you have looked at over seas carpet crosses, you might of been looking
at a animal that is more the result of a pattern/colour mutation like the "jaguar morph"
rather than simply crossing sub-species of carpet.
Albino bred to a normal?
You might want to explain that further.
Breeding Albino to Normal what?, what ever it is wil only result in hets.
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16-Oct-07, 09:36 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: Crestmead, brisbane Gender:  | | | | pattern/colour mutation
whats that.
Albino bred to a normal?
You might want to explain that further?
i meen an albino olive with a normal olive etc | 
16-Oct-07, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ashley81
i meen an albino olive with a normal olive etc | That isn't cross-breeding. As Australis said that will just give you a Het olive which looks exactly like a normal olive.
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16-Oct-07, 09:39 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Central Coast Age/Gender: 19  | | | | Albino is a recessive mutation. Therefore, if the 'normal' is NOT a carrier of the albino gene, the young will be heterozygous (het) for albino. The phenotype of the young (what they look like) will be 'normal'.
On the other hand, if the 'normal' IS a carrier (het) of albino, some of the young will be albino whereas others will be het for albino.
Crossing an albino and a 'normal' will not produce something like a piebald.
Adam | 
16-Oct-07, 09:45 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: Crestmead, brisbane Gender:  | | | what about a black and gold jungle and a high yellow diamond or is that not possable and whats the pattern/colour mutation deal what is it | 
16-Oct-07, 09:50 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Central Coast Age/Gender: 19  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ashley81 what about a black and gold jungle and a high yellow diamond or is that not possable and whats the pattern/colour mutation deal what is it | I recommend you find a good book or website on basic genetics. It doesn't have to be herp related, you just need to understand the basics of genetics before you can start on the what-ifs.
Adam | 
16-Oct-07, 09:50 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane, Toowong Age/Gender: 20  | | | Colour mutation is just like... hmm.. a striped coastal. It's not bred to a woma or a BHP or anything to get the stripes.. it's pure coastal. It's 'colour mutation' is its stripe (well, that's a pattern mutation).. | 
16-Oct-07, 09:50 PM
|  | Bendy! Sponsor | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | | Generally what is created is a bland animal that resembles one half of it's heritage. Developing interesting and unique snakes is not just a matter of putting a Murray Darling over a Jungle, it takes years of selective breeding. Most (not all) of the uniquely patterned Morelia crossbreeds I have seen would be achievable with 'pure' animals, too. Just have a look at what some of the Aussie's at the top of their game are doing with Jungles!
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17-Oct-07, 07:50 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Age: 34 | | | I am against cross-breeding. But why would you want to cross a jungle and coastal? IF you are after heavier pattern in the coastal go for Cairns Coastal. They have most stunning markings and lovely colours. They may even be an intergrade. But deliberate crossing in captivity? You might get one or 2 stunning hatchies but what happens to the remainder of the clutch, and eventually they will fall into hands who will sell them or offspring as a purebred species and ruin someone else's breeding program.
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