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10-May-08, 11:42 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-07 Location: Western NSW Gender:  | | | Quote: |
I always just tip the frozen rats into a bucket of hot water
| Same here. I give 'em a bit of a slap on paper towell to remove excess water & feed them off.
If there's a simpler way to do it, then let me know.
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10-May-08, 07:15 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: bathurst nsw | | | | i put mine into a container of hot water and feed them wet. i think this is why i have had no trouble swapping from mice to rats as when defrosted in hot water it takes away all the scent so when you first give it a rat it looks just like a big mouse because it has no scent and used to it having no scent. |
10-May-08, 10:13 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-07 Location: Behind the bushes, Qld Gender: | | | | Did my first try of wet rat feeding, water python took it without batting an eyelash (if she had any).
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11-May-08, 11:29 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: central coast. nsw Gender: | | | | Cant understand all the "water takes away the scent " stuff, as pythons taste rather than smell. Defrosting wet takes away nothing.
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11-May-08, 11:57 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: either fishing or not | | | | Howdy guys, I chuck quails, rats and mice in a big bucket of hot water to defrost (out of the plastic bags) so their scents are all mixed. I think that way a snake won't get stuck on the one diet item?????? All of my snakes will take any of the above foods so if I run out of one or the other it's not an issue. I dry them off a bit on an old towel so stuff doesn't stick to them. A prey item consists of a fair percentage of water anyway so i don't know how beneficial the extra water ration on a wet item would be. |
11-May-08, 12:07 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-05 Location: Somewhere in the great SE (QLD) Gender: | | | I thaw mine dry but place them in hot water for a few seconds prior to get a heat signature, so my hand doesn't become the target 
interesting the different approaches...
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11-May-08, 12:13 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | my bhp drinks some of the water off them before he eats lol
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11-May-08, 12:50 PM
|  | Pure Bred Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: NSW Age/Gender: 19 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by cockney red  Cant understand all the "water takes away the scent " stuff, as pythons taste rather than smell. Defrosting wet takes away nothing. | yes they do taste, but the way they do it is by capturing molecules on thier tongue and then the tongue comes back in the mouth and transfers these molecules to the jacobson's organ... so in a way it is similar to smell because they are still gathering it (scent/taste molecules) from the air.
and i was merely asking if it was POSSIBLE for the water to diminish the smell in some way. I was thinking that the water could bind with the smell/scent/taste molecules, diluting them or even stopping them from travelling as far as they usually would. but im no scientist so i dont know definitively
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11-May-08, 01:03 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Age: 34 | | | | I have 1 snake who seems to be scared of the water dripping off the rats when I hold them over her so I kind of dry them with a paper towel for her so they are damp not soaked. Everyone else, straight from bucket to their mouth.
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11-May-08, 01:09 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: NTH QLD | | | | I defrost in a large icecream container in their bags due to feeding different sizes etc in another icecream container with warm to hot water and put the first container in the other as i don't like my rodents dripping wet and find that large rats etc can squash and make a mess of your smaller rodents to feed to your younger snakes.I figure they still get a fair bit of moisture from a defrosted feed and afterall there's always the water bowl if the snakes are thirsty!
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11-May-08, 01:11 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: central coast. nsw Gender: | | | They taste the rat. Especially if it is warm, as it should be.They then also see its heat signature. Quote:
Originally Posted by fuegan13 yes they do taste, but the way they do it is by capturing molecules on thier tongue and then the tongue comes back in the mouth and transfers these molecules to the jacobson's organ... so in a way it is similar to smell because they are still gathering it (scent/taste molecules) from the air.
and i was merely asking if it was POSSIBLE for the water to diminish the smell in some way. I was thinking that the water could bind with the smell/scent/taste molecules, diluting them or even stopping them from travelling as far as they usually would. but im no scientist so i dont know definitively |
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11-May-08, 01:15 PM
| | Pure Bred Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: NSW Age/Gender: 19 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by cockney red They taste the rat. Especially if it is warm, as it should be.They then also see its heat signature. | i completely agree with you on that point.... that was never in debate.
what i am saying is that i have a jungle python that not take food, rats or mice when they have been defrosted directly in water. whereas my other snakes will. I am trying to determine why.
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11-May-08, 01:17 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: NTH QLD | | | | I've always found jungles to be the fussiest of feeders,some never get off mice,it's just something you have to live with i guess???
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11-May-08, 01:19 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: central coast. nsw Gender: | | | Does he still not take it if its dried off on paper towel. Some will not take it dripping. Quote:
Originally Posted by fuegan13 i feed all my snake wet except for my jungle python because he will only take dry..... i wonder if defrosting wet removes some of the scent ? or if he just doesnt like the feel of the wet rat/mouse |
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11-May-08, 01:21 PM
| | Pure Bred Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: NSW Age/Gender: 19 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWNS I've always found jungles to be the fussiest of feeders,some never get off mice,it's just something you have to live with i guess??? | its not a huge problem, no dramas living with it... i just found it curious. he is def fussy. refuses rats flat out unless they are scented with mouse as well... quirky little bugger
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