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29-Oct-07, 05:55 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Perth, WA Age/Gender: 18  | | |  Foods: Breeding Vs. Buying!?
Hey all!
Whats the best bet when it comes to food? Buying from stores or breeding your own?
Id like to focus on Snakes and Western Beardies mainly but i guess anything is allowed as long as its helpful in the matter!!
im looking at getting possibly 2/3... possibly 4 Western beardies to try break mum into herping and then pounce with a stimmie...
so whats the thoughts people?! would it be better to just buy the food? (at $1.5 a feed for a snake im not sure what will work out better) and for beardies im thinkn id have to breed some bugs otherwise at ~$10 a container that will definetly hurt the wallet...
cheers all!!
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29-Oct-07, 06:01 PM
|  | Crab Battle Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: Penrith/ Sydney Age/Gender: 19 | | | |
definatly cheaper to breed insects then buy them
as for mice im not to sure....
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29-Oct-07, 06:01 PM
|  | Mr Knee Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-06 Location: Wollongong Age/Gender: 36 | | | |
I am seriously thinking of breeding some rats , my collection is growing and the cost is getting a little bit expensive to buy frozen all the time .
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29-Oct-07, 06:03 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Adelaide Age/Gender: 20 | | | |
well IMO breeding mice/rats if ur trying to convince ur mom to enjoy herptology then showing her how u smash them against the wall to stun them before feeding the snake may n ot be the best way to go. although having dead animals like mice in her freezer also might freak her out so its 50/50 lol, but insects breed like the devil so go for it
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29-Oct-07, 06:07 PM
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Yeh...We've got a small freezer in the beer fridge so storing is not a problem!!
its just the fact of what would be cheaper in the long run really...
i dont mind the idea of just buying frozen mice and breeding them seems pretty simple aswell... its just is it worth the effort for one snake?!
and am i going to be overwhelmd with lil baby mice that im not guna be able to store... Etc...
Ive also heard its alot better to breed the mice coz snakes grow better, look better etc from fresh meat rather then thawed...
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29-Oct-07, 06:10 PM
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yea but smashing a mouse against a wall is kinda mean
and if ure thinking of storing them they will end up being thawed anyway
your better off gassing them rather then smashing them against the walls
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29-Oct-07, 06:12 PM
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[quote=That_Guy;985456]Yeh...We've got a small freezer in the beer fridge so storing is not a problem!!
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Great, thats one litter sorted, what do you plan to do with the rest? lol, you'll need a bigger freezer, and one that isn't used for human food. If you want to wean your mum into herps don't try and keep their food near hers 
I breed mice purely because i have only 2 snakes (for now) that are small (maccies) and i'm not alklowed to have rats
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29-Oct-07, 06:18 PM
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Dont bother with one snake, I used to breed mice when I had about 15 mouths to feed, but found that when I thinned out down to 2 animals, it wasnt worth it. Insects are cheap to breed though, got for it, and that way you dont have to worry about keeping/cleaning/feeding/killing mice as well (give it another year or 2 and your time will become very precious...)
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29-Oct-07, 06:21 PM
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i agree with all that, unless u have a friend who has mice that u can convice to let u have a couple every now and then, ide give her a miss less ur tryin to feed a large group of snakes.
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29-Oct-07, 06:30 PM
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I've only got one python so I'm happy to buy rodents until the collection gets a bit bigger.
As for beardies though, I breed crickets - if I bought them, I would have gone broke a long time ago 
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29-Oct-07, 06:47 PM
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id say if you are gonna get lots of snakes in the future breed your mice and rats early buy your food frozen if you can buy enough for a few feeds when i had only one snake i used to buy 1 months food at a time as for bugs go for it just dont let too many escape you can put floron around the sides to stop woodies getting otu
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29-Oct-07, 07:12 PM
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Breeding insects would be a good idea or you will end up paying alot of money. Roaches(not the pest type) are probably the best way to go if you are allowed to have them over there. For one little python breeding rodents is far more effort than its worth IMO.
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29-Oct-07, 07:13 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Rockingham Wa Age/Gender: 27 | | | |
crix are better nutritionally tho
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29-Oct-07, 07:37 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Perth, WA Age/Gender: 18 | | |
Haha Cool. thanks all!!
So whats the best insects to breed then for Beardy Food?! ie guna be best for the beardies. doesnt matter if its a lil more effort to look after! id rather give them good nutritional food and put half hours work in a day then to spend 5 mins and feed them crap!
everyone seems to have diff ideas!! :S
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29-Oct-07, 07:45 PM
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For one stimmie, buy your mice frozen. The little critters really stink to have around and the dogs get far too excited by the scent, noise and movement. Pythondad is very good at cervical dislocation to kill them, but we still prefer to buy frozen.
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