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18-Jan-08, 08:53 PM
|  | UNIT Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Sunny Sylvania Age/Gender: 30  | | | | the local populations of animals in surrounding area- ie the royal- have been decimated by repeated bushfires and feral cats and thousands of herpers- grabbing the animals from these brick works ,that seem to have been overlooked by illegal poachers, and releasing them into the surrounding bush land that has bugger all indigenous animals left is not going to hurt imo. Releasing extra animals into an area of "untouched" bush that has an already stable balance of animals is going to cause problems described in other posts- putting a few "longnecks" and a couple of water dragons into an eco system that is heavily affected by humans, with well less animals than it could theoretically support ,for me seems to be a good idea.
Realistically the animals that do get released will most probably only end up in illegal collections in the outer suburbs of sydney within a couple of weeks any way- becuase the rate at wich reptiles and plant species are being pilfered is absloutly astonishing. the royal,heathcote np as well as menai and kurnell have served as sydneys unofficial reptile shop for years- and the rate this hobby is groing is only making it worse, the reptiles were safer when it was only "weirdo's" who kept them.
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21-Jan-08, 12:22 PM
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21-Jan-08, 12:33 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | | WELL WELL WELL. Just had a quick sticky & low & behold 2 x swap snakes, countless water skinks, 3 x blue tounges, short & long neck turtles, bloddy koi carp. & thats after a good storm & took only one hour. SO what do you reckon people.
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21-Jan-08, 12:40 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | | Oh & ducks too
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21-Jan-08, 01:05 PM
|  | primitively archaic Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender: | | | | "behold 2 x swap snakes"
I am unsure what I am beholding....
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21-Jan-08, 01:07 PM
|  | Herping Freak! Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: mid north coast of NSW Age/Gender: 15 | | | | i think he means swamp snakes also known as marsh snake or black bellied swamp snakes |
21-Jan-08, 01:11 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 18 | | | | lol greebo got told by a 14 year old. |
21-Jan-08, 01:16 PM
| | primitively archaic Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender: | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Geklor  lol greebo got told by a 14 year old. | Another one straight through to the keeper......good "greaf"!
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21-Jan-08, 01:25 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: S.A. Gender:  | | | Good on you tittezzz.I say get your facts, know the legalities of what you are doing & go get 'em. If I lived near you, I'd be right with you. The RSPCA aren't interested in saving natives.  It is only interested in high publicity fund raising incidents. Contact National parks & keep on knocking till someone listens. Good luck. I'm with you in spirit if not in body!
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21-Jan-08, 01:36 PM
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21-Jan-08, 06:31 PM
|  | Sdaji Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Victoria | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tittezzz | Australian ecosystems have evolved over tens of thousands of years of frequent fires. They have always done so by using the survivors of the local populations, and this is extremely important. If an area is burned, the animals most able to cope with fire are the ones which survive. These breed, and when the next fire comes through, the animals are well adapted to deal with it. If we remove this form of natural selection, evolution is being hindered and populations are less strong. Additionally, the introduction of animals from 'untouched' (presumably isolated) gene pools is unnatural, and potentially damaging to evolution for a range of reasons; the animals in each population are adapted to their local environment, not another environment (I won't get into it in any more detail as it would take a lot of space and result in me being further accused of being a good potential secretary and looking great in mini skirts and high heels).
I appreciate that you want what is best for reptiles, but please understand that what is best for reptiles is for people to keep out of the way. The populations in question are doomed, we can not change that. Introducing animals from that area into another area will only increase the damage by harming the populations which we do have the ability to leave alone.
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24-Jan-08, 11:07 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | | ic ur point BUT
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Originally Posted by Sdaji Australian ecosystems have evolved over tens of thousands of years of frequent fires. They have always done so by using the survivors of the local populations, and this is extremely important. If an area is burned, the animals most able to cope with fire are the ones which survive. These breed, and when the next fire comes through, the animals are well adapted to deal with it. If we remove this form of natural selection, evolution is being hindered and populations are less strong. Additionally, the introduction of animals from 'untouched' (presumably isolated) gene pools is unnatural, and potentially damaging to evolution for a range of reasons; the animals in each population are adapted to their local environment, not another environment (I won't get into it in any more detail as it would take a lot of space and result in me being further accused of being a good potential secretary and looking great in mini skirts and high heels).
I appreciate that you want what is best for reptiles, but please understand that what is best for reptiles is for people to keep out of the way. The populations in question are doomed, we can not change that. Introducing animals from that area into another area will only increase the damage by harming the populations which we do have the ability to leave alone. | It seems such a waste of perfectly good herps.
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24-Jan-08, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Greebo "behold 2 x swap snakes"
I am unsure what I am beholding.... | sorry I missed the M
it was late 
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24-Jan-08, 11:21 AM
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24-Jan-08, 11:28 AM
| | primitively archaic Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender: | | | | The RSPCA deal more with cruelty to animals. I think you would have more luck contacting WIRES. Even then...they usually arent very concerned about reptiles ( there are exceptions of course).
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Well im glad that Ive got you all talking but why are so many people given me greaf??
its on the corner of the princess hwy 6 lanes & oak rd & flora st. THE MACHINES ARE COMING SOON
