Hook or jigger debate?

[Tatelina]

What do you call this?

(Sorry for the small pic, I borrowed it from www.herpasylum.com.au/husbandry.htm)

I got confused when somebody from a wildlife rescue group was referring to using a jigger to pull a snake out from under a rock ledge... and then I saw pictures of hooks in the latest reptile magazine labelled jiggers...so now I'm wondering.
What does the majority think?

[pythonrockchik1]

I call a spade a spade n a hook a hook..

Tis a hook i say lol

[Hix]

I call it a hook. But I've heard other people call them jiggers.

To me a jigger is a pinning stick (with a piece of leather or soft material used to pin the animal).

A jigger is also the larvae of a nasty little skin parasite.



Hix

[Jozz]

You say tomato, I say tomato I thought they were the same thing? It's a hook / jigger.

[ishka]

Originally Posted by Hix

I call it a hook. But I've heard other people call them jiggers.

To me a jigger is a pinning stick (with a piece of leather or soft material used to pin the animal).

A jigger is also the larvae of a nasty little skin parasite.



Hix

I'm with Hix... the one in the picture is a hook.

This what I have always referred to as a jigger.


pic from visimax.com.au

Cheers,
Ishka

[redbellybite]

ISH i call that a pinner lol but anyway like they say tomatoe tomato who cares as long as the snake isnt getting hurt .........I HATE THEM BLOODY PINCHERS THAT I SEE ALOT OF CATCHERS USE ........lhandle held squeeze the trigger and holds the snake bahhhh if been trained properly you would never need one of those !!!!redbellybite

[ishka]

See now just to add more confusion to the topic I always thought a hook was a hook (like the one in the first post) and that a jigger and a pinner were the same thing (the second pic) lol

Originally Posted by redbellybite

I HATE THEM BLOODY PINCHERS THAT I SEE ALOT OF CATCHERS USE ........lhandle held squeeze the trigger and holds the snake

I think those ones are called snake tongs.

cheers,
Ishka

[Valley Reptile Supplies]

ishka what you have pictured it a pinner
hook/jigger same thing

Most rescue organisations call them a Jigger

[TrueBlue]

hook / jigger two names for the same thing.

A pinning stick is not a jigger.

[PilbaraPythons]

The raptor snake tongs advertised in the last reptiles Australia magazine looked very good and the article by Simon Fearn gives them a great rap. If these do not harm the snake as claimed in any way then why not use them, for many situations it would be a far safer option than tailing. I have tailed all my life but have one on order myself.

Cheers Dave

[Tatelina]

Originally Posted by Valley Reptile Supplies

Most rescue organisations call them a Jigger

I still don't understand the reasoning for this....it's not even logical, and most people call it a hook...but oh well.

[Jonno from ERD]

Originally Posted by PilbaraPythons

The raptor snake tongs advertised in the last reptiles Australia magazine looked very good and the article by Simon Fearn gives them a great rap. If these do not harm the snake as claimed in any way then why not use them, for many situations it would be a far safer option than tailing. I have tailed all my life but have one on order myself.

Cheers Dave

G'day Dave

I see the animal cruelty issue as only one of several problem with tongs - there are several others. Firstly, it can give inexperienced handlers a massive false sense of security, leading to complacency and a bite. Secondly, a stressed snake is never going to enjoy been clamped in a set of tongs, regardless of how gentle they are - you know how a snake reacts as soon as you put a pinner on the back of its neck or try and restrain it at all. Thirdly, I just don't see many, if any at all, scenarios where I would prefer to be using tongs over a simple hook and bag set up.

[eladidare]

its a gaff

[Magpie]

Jigging is a way of fishing, fishing uses hooks, hook = jigger.

[ryanharvey1993]

hook are better in my opinion as jiggers look like there hurting the snake, i axadently clicked jigger tho lol