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03-Nov-05, 07:21 PM
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i was thinking that by the time they breed in 3-4 years from now,the people who are breeding them now,would have bred heaps by then and the price would come down?Am i right?Thanks
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03-Nov-05, 07:24 PM
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"how to own a share in a green python"
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03-Nov-05, 07:34 PM
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8 years ago they cost $5000, I can't see the bottom falling out of the market just yet :-)
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03-Nov-05, 07:59 PM
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personally i would just get some non herp keeping investors. 51% profits go to you and the other 49% go to the investors acording to how much they originally invested. say you invested 24.5% of the total money that was invested then you get 24.5% of the profit.
i really just need to sucker my dad into buying me some gtps,
andrew
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03-Nov-05, 08:06 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Sydney Age: 44 | | | |
But Andrew, that is like the Queensland property investments. Then we would have to charge $10,000 each snake and pay a $3,000 commission to someone who knows nothing about herps. And then the snakes would have to be only worth $4,000 when you come to sell because no-one wants to buy old ones. But hey, your dad is welcome. Why dont you give him his 25% return and you keep the snake?
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03-Nov-05, 08:12 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-05 Location: Perth WA | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by MrBredli Would definately need a written contract.. | Definately - at the end of the day its just a business transaction, so treat it the same way you would if you were setting up a business. And people can be trusted - its more the chosing of the person that is the issue
Sten
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03-Nov-05, 08:21 PM
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$30,000 on a 7% interest only loan for four years is about 10K interest over the four years. Feeding and upkeep say another 10K for the four years. At 50K cost you have four adult GTPs of your own in the worst case scenario you have four boys. This is fairly low odds though, say one female with 15 eggs. 15*7000=105,000. If Only the one female you could double your money, two or three females would be talking crazy town money. The math is good but the initial money is always going to be the problem for the vast majority of people.
Another point I ask...... Who among you keep reptiles purely for profit? Covering your own costs is nice but I never make any money off my hobbies I do them because I love it.
Sorry I'm ranting. They are lovely animals and if money was no object I would have them too. But there is a lot of talk of breeding for profit first and foremost. I think breeding animals for profit is a business not a hobby. Just my thoughts at the moment.
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03-Nov-05, 08:28 PM
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Personally, I was just looking for a way to get a pair of GTP's without tying up $15,000 for a long time. I am with Munkee, its about the reptiles first. But I personally can't afford the $30K up front. Any profit made would merely be icing on the cake. I could probably manage the 7k but need a case to convince the finance director (spouse). Its just liek the slef employed guy who buys the $60,000 ute and justfiies it by saying he gets a tax deduction. He really only just wants the ute. The tax deduction is a bonus.
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03-Nov-05, 09:42 PM
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He really only just wants the ute. The tax deduction is a bonus.
| Sounds as good a reason as any to get some GTP
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03-Nov-05, 11:13 PM
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it'd be like the episode of the simpsons where bart and his mates get a copy of ' radio-active man #1' lol
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03-Nov-05, 11:40 PM
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true that!!
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03-Nov-05, 11:54 PM
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it'd be like the episode of the simpsons where bart and his mates get a copy of ' radio-active man #1' lol
| Must have missed that one
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04-Nov-05, 05:47 AM
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Hello Peter,
I alluded to the syndicate idea in a recent post, albeit tongue in cheek, and no one ran with it  I think you have a potentially good idea there. Obviously the finer points would need to be ironed out in contract form, but I think the housing issue could be discussed here. I think housing them seperately and together carry both positive and negative aspects. Any accident (fire etc) or disease would hurt a collective group more, whilst seperate accomodations bring with them their own problems such as varying degrees of security and differences in husbandry techniques.
Great post!
Oh just thought, how would such an obviously commercial venture go in regard to standard license restrictions?
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04-Nov-05, 06:51 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Bris/Gold Coast Age/Gender: 32  | | |
I would be in it.... But I dont have that kinda "Spare cash"... Bummer
SLACKra..They would be better housed at a reptile park I think... You can imagine if one died while at their house... There would be questions and critisism ablout how they looked after it..How often they fed it..? What temp it was kept at? Did they cool it, to what temp. etc. You can imagine.....
But great idea.... If someone can get it going... Get lots of babies so that the price comes down..lol.. So they becore more popular...  | 
04-Nov-05, 06:52 AM
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thats a great idea peter, if i win the 19 million in tattslotto on saturday night i will definately send you a pm lol |  | | |