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27-Nov-07, 11:59 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Sunshine Coast Age/Gender: 22  | | |  Hybrid / Intergrade ???
Just a quick question.
Can someone please explain to me please what Intergrade is? and how it differ's from Hybrid? |
27-Nov-07, 12:00 PM
|  | QUEEN B Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23 | | | | There is a sticky thread by bigguy that explains the difference.
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27-Nov-07, 12:03 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Sunshine Coast Age/Gender: 22 | | | | Ok cool thanks, wasnt to sure if there was another thread on it. |
27-Nov-07, 12:48 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Melbourne | | | I can't ever remember a thread on hybrids, maybe Boa would know 
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27-Nov-07, 12:55 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | | I rest my case.. |
27-Nov-07, 01:18 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Brisbane, Toowong Age/Gender: 20  | | | From Google, and probably a little simplistic:
HYBRID: an organism that is the offspring of genetically dissimilar parents or stock; especially offspring produced by breeding plants or animals of different varieties or breeds or species; "a mule is a hybrid of a horse and a donkey" - so in pythons a hybrid would be a woma x carpet or similair
INTEGRADE: An animal which shows the mixed characteristics of two subspecies at the border of both their ranges - My understanding is that this is naturally occuring. For example, at the border of diamond python/coastal carpet habitat, intergrades can occur because diamond pythons and coastal carpets are subspecies of the same species ( Morelia spilota)
Make sense? |
27-Nov-07, 02:10 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: Country NSW Age/Gender: 37 | | | Oh no, not again! 
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27-Nov-07, 02:23 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Sunshine Coast Age/Gender: 22 | | | | yeah makes sense now, i also read the sticky by bigguy that Miss B pointed out earlier.
So what happens when someone is purchasing a snake i.e Diamond, is it difficult to determine where its heritage is from? pure/intergrade and so forth?
I dont really want to start anything, i just want to get a better undstand of species and localities |
27-Nov-07, 02:27 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | | I suggest you read the sriped Diamonds Holdbacks thread.. |
27-Nov-07, 02:47 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Sunshine Coast Age/Gender: 22 | | | | what other intergrade species are there? |
27-Nov-07, 02:55 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Sydney Age: 43 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilK  From Google, and probably a little simplistic:
HYBRID: an organism that is the offspring of genetically dissimilar parents or stock; especially offspring produced by breeding plants or animals of different varieties or breeds or species; "a mule is a hybrid of a horse and a donkey" - so in pythons a hybrid would be a woma x carpet or similair
INTEGRADE: An animal which shows the mixed characteristics of two subspecies at the border of both their ranges - My understanding is that this is naturally occuring. For example, at the border of diamond python/coastal carpet habitat, intergrades can occur because diamond pythons and coastal carpets are subspecies of the same species (Morelia spilota)
Make sense? | Perfect!!!! Thats about as good a definition as I have seen.
BUT ......... where does a Coastal from Brissie crossed with a Sydney "Diamond" python fit into this?? That is where all the debate comes from mate. I dont think the definition takes into account captive crossing of the subspecies.
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27-Nov-07, 02:57 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | Heres just a few
Diamonds X Coastal
Diamond X Inlands
Coastal x Jungles
Coastal X Northwesterns
Coastal X Inlands
Spotted X Stimsons
Stimsons X Childreni |
27-Nov-07, 03:00 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | | Peter
Brisbane Coastal X Diamond in captivity would be a Hybrid, a man made designer animal. Cross any 2 species or subspecies and you have a man made hybrid. |
27-Nov-07, 03:01 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | Don't forget these...
Diamond x Bredli
Diamond x Bredli x Murray Darling
Coastal x Bredli
Diamond x Jungle
All already in Aus.. |
27-Nov-07, 03:04 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | | Pugs, after that last thread trying to educate people why on earth would you post that rediculis list. No wonder people are confused. | | |
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