Hypo Bredli's

[yommy]

A question for the guys with hypo's.
If you crossed the hypo with a really nice standard line bredli would the clutch have a mix of both? or to keep the hypo line you have to breed hypo to hypo?
Both lines of bredli are awesome animals, just curious. :

[westhamsc]

well if your me there is no hypo bredli but thats just me

[africancichlidau]

well if your me there is no hypo bredli but thats just me

Or is it me? No! it's you, so, if you're you and I'm me what right have you got to call yourself me?

[diamond_python]

Or is it me? No! it's you, so, if you're you and I'm me what right have you got to call yourself me?

Very Smart there Afro

Sorry Yommy, I can't answer that question. IMO, if I had Hypo Bredli, then I would only breed them with Hypo's

[Parko]

For those of us that aren't you Westy could you expand a little on your theory?

I believe you would most likely get a mixed clutch Yommy, hypo's, regular and somewhere in between, but i'm not speaking from experience so hopefully someone who knows for sure will reply.

[BROWNS]

Was going to ask the same Parko :wink: No such thing as a hypo bredli huh...elusive as the black panther .Pics or it didn't happen and all that stuff :roll:

[Parko]

Lol Browns, i'll wait for Westy's reply before i bring out the pics, i've even got a photo of a hypo bredli without the head in it, just like the Victorian black panther.

[BROWNS]

Yeah will be interesting to hear.I know of nobody yet that has put hypo to hypo to see if it is actually a trait which in the true sense of the word hypo should mean but it also means less black/reduced black compared to a normal.

I read on another forum by a morph expert that hypomelanistic means no black at all but they do still have black, just much less than normals ,after being crossed to each other they should get lighter again"recessive trait"..."so"will be awesome to see what comes of a hypo to hypo breeding produces.I know Bo W has a pair or so from Tremain which are screamers he mentioned he would be breeding this year so hopefully the trait is proven?

[boa]

Yes I think you would get a mix of both standard and hypos. Not quite sure about the theory they don't exist though. I have some and they definitely exist. If a snake has reduced black it is hypomelanistic, amelanistic means no black at all.

[munkee]

WIth the no hypo's theory does that infer that the reduced black is not directly related to specific genetics but rather a variation in colouring? (like darwins compared to coastals for example).

[boa]

I'm not sure how relevant that is in this situation though, the hypo Bredls are still just Bredls but with a noticeable reduction of black in it's otherwise normal colouring. It just isn't possible to say they don't exist, you could argue that the Loch Ness monster doesn't exist as it has never been captured or properly photographed.
If you look at a good hypo Bredli or coastal for that matter there is no doubt that they are what they are. The fact that the waters get muddied with so many animals being labelled hypo when they quite obviously aren't does make it harder.

[Jason]

just like the Victorian black panther

i was reading something last night that was interesting, there is technically no such thing as a "panther" it is a name used by people when talking about a black leopard or puma. (i found it interesting)

as for the hypo bredli, they do exist as said they just meen REDUCED black, NOT no black.
i reckon you would get a mix of both.

[JunglePython]

I bred hypo bredli last year and out of 17 hatchlings
7 were hypo. The difference between the normal ones and
the hypo ones were like chalk and cheese.

[boa]

And I can say with no hesitation that your hypos were very definitely hypo, one is lighter than the other but neither are showing signs of any black as yet.

[sevrum]

has anybody got any pics of adult hypo bredls,there are lots of pics getting around of hatchlings but rarely adults