Hypo Bredli's

[Reptilia]

Seeing asthough your on the topic of hypo's (reduced melanin). To clarify this up for me, Is their such a thing as hypermelanistic (increased melanin). Or is this just known as melanistic (like the darwin carpet in reptiles australia, volume 2, issue 2).

Cheers. Lance.

[foxysnake]

Increased melanin as your saying like the darwin carpet in reptiles australia, volume 2, issue 2, is called 'amelanistic', where the animal is almost completely black. - I'd personally like to see a photo of the blue tongues that were metioned in the article that have that trait and are all black - would be interesting to see!

[BROWNS]

Looking tops Parko and that was one ii said wouldn't be as hypo as others yet still looking hot!!!Still don't believe in hypo bredli MH?Doc Roc is selling them...i'm sure someone will breed they hypos together soon enough but simple fact is they have reduced black just like the non believers of hypo carpets..

Yeah have seen some full on fluro yellow and green supposed pure diamonds zuludude wonder if they were ...ummmm what's that bloody word again?

[BROWNS]

Sorry ishould correct myself there,Tremain said that hence the cheaper price tag..and now they're prices have skyrocketed.Tremain has some awesome bredli,i'm glad he's keeping so light

[indicus]

Hi yommy;
I believe you'll get a mix...by putting a standard over a hypo.
Some with less black others with more......
My original breeding pair of animals were the pick; from two unrelated clutchs.
The owner before me had chosen them for their over-all colour and reduced black...
They have darkened in over all colour, some what....however still have reduced black.
At present the breeding girls and breeder male are in shed and prelay shed....I normally end up three quarters of the clutch, haveing a remarkable reduction in black pigment; some with little to none....All the hypo's i have seen; still get a small amount as they age...normally towards the tail; some more then others... I will try and post some pics when they shed (still cannot post pics; Mods?)...I hope with the line breeding....the amount of black will be even less; the red/orange brighter.
Either way; all depends what you like.......more or less black?
Some nice snakes Parko/Stiffler

[Parko]

cheers Browns, considering i wasn't really all that fussed about black pigment and what not when i purchased him i reckon i got real lucky, i'd expect to pay more than i did for another like him. Indicus i have pm'd you mate.

[Hix]

Originally Posted by foxysnake

Increased melanin as your saying like the darwin carpet in reptiles australia, volume 2, issue 2, is called 'amelanistic', where the animal is almost completely black.

That's incorrect.

An increase in melanin is hypermelanistic.

When the animal is completely black it is termed 'melanistic'.

'Amelanistic' means a complete absence of melanin.



Hix

[Reptilia]

So... Hypo (reduced melanin), Hyper (increased melanin), melanistic (black), amelanistic (?) White, Albino?

[Hix]

Originally Posted by Reptilia

So... Hypo (reduced melanin), Hyper (increased melanin), melanistic (black), amelanistic (?) White, Albino?

amelanistic means, literally, without melanin (the Latin prefix 'a-' means 'without'). In animals that are coloured only by melanins (and there are different types of melanins), then an amelanistic animal looks white and has pink or red eyes eg. mammals, like humans, rabbits, wallabies etc. The word albino has been attributed to these animals.

Albino is a portuguese word, derived from the Latin word alba (meaning white) and the Portuguese modifier '-ino' which means 'has the appearance' (or words to that effect). It literally means something that is white.

Birds and reptiles have another sort of pigment called xanthins, that produces yellow colours. Many amelanistic reptiles still have their patterns, but marked in bold yellow. These animals are correctly termed amelanistic, but are usually refered to as 'albinos', which is not correct because albinos are all white (with pink eyes).

I've heard it stated that, as albino mammals have no melanin, then the word albino must mean "no melanin". Hence the confusion (I blame the Americans).

Thankfully, the bird world refers to an amelanistic, but xanthic, bird as a Lutino (or similar). They reserve albino for all white birds. Some hairsplitters even go so far to say that a true albino mutation is one mutation that jointly affects both the melanin and xanthic producing genes simultaneously, but there's no need for us to go there.

Just my 2 cents worth. Hope that clears things up a little.



Hix

[sevrum]

nice pic parko and stiffler,lets keep all of the pics coming.I am sure everyone is still very keen to see a pic of an adult hypo bredl

[foxysnake]

whhops! - Thought I might have got them mixed up! - Sorry for the confusion! (Sick can't think - as you can see!)

[ErisKSC]

Can't wait itll i get a Bredli, AWESOME pics!

[yommy]

Indicus

It would be good to see some pic's of your girl and boy, they sound awesome.
I'm over the common coastals and would like to stream into bredli's and if your going to do it right you might as well get good quality animals. The hypo's are really appealing but a nice standard line is also a good looking snake. It's just to hard, 1 pair of each i think. Interested to see how your hatchlings turn out?

[westhamsc]

ok i'll clear up this no hypo thing up. yes these snake have reduced black but these so called hypos are not true hypos. of 4 breeders i know of that breed "hypos" the parents are so called "hypos" but they still have normal bredli babys with some so called "hypos" being born as well. now if they where true hypos shouldn't all the babys be hypo? so as this is not a proven genetic line. i refuse to call any of these hypo bredli hypo. untill some one can prove me wrong and not by a pic of one "hypo" bredli.

[foxysnake]

So it just happens to be luck that the majority of offspring are hypos? What if the remaining offspring who are obviously not hypo, hets for the hypo gene?