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04-May-08, 05:13 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney Age/Gender: 29  | | | I was at the Expo today, and I noticed one of the pet shop displays had a table full of "keeping reptiles" type books, and amongst them were a couple of copies of "Keeping Cornsnakes"
Does anyone else think this is a bit weird, being that corn snakes aren't legal in this country??? I just thought it was a bit irresponsible. At an Expo dedicated to protecting and conserving our native wildlife, they were basically condoning, if not encouraging the idea that exotics are/can be kept in this country! I also saw is as a dodgy "advertisement" - my reaction was that they knew someone who knew someone who could get a corn snake on the quiet if you asked the right people...
What is everyone else's opinion on this? Did anyone see the book on display?
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04-May-08, 05:20 PM
|  | Custom Enclosures Subscriber | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Newcastle | | | | Well the sad thing is there here - if we like it or not - I don't! I have sold enclosures to people from Syd who own corns and I guess if they don't buy the book here they will get it from overseas anyway.
It better to have something to help them look after these snake then see them die slowly with the person not knowing what to look at for.
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04-May-08, 05:21 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Sydney Gender:  | | | | My son remarked on that - thought it was inappropriate to sell books on keeping animals which are illegal.
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04-May-08, 06:43 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney Age/Gender: 29  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Auzlizardking Well the sad thing is there here - if we like it or not - I don't! I have sold enclosures to people from Syd who own corns and I guess if they don't buy the book here they will get it from overseas anyway.
It better to have something to help them look after these snake then see them die slowly with the person not knowing what to look at for.
My 2c | Yeah, fair enough - I guess they deserve to be kept in the best conditions possible, and i suppose it is inevitable that the books will be available in shops, but I just felt it was a bit odd at a native animal expo...
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04-May-08, 06:47 PM
|  | Custom Enclosures Subscriber | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Newcastle | | | | I guess it's might be about supply and demand - If I have sold enclosures to people with corns then how many are out there? | 
04-May-08, 06:50 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-03 Location: here | | | | I dont see why it is a problem at all.If I decide to buy a book on how to look after elephants does that mean that I keep them in my spare room or does it mean I am just interested in them in general? I dont keep GTPs yet have a book on them,perhaps I shouldn't have brought it.
Also APS has a forum just for exotics does that mean they are encouraging the keeping of them? | 
04-May-08, 06:54 PM
|  | Reptile Addict :D Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Margate, Queensland Age/Gender: 18  | | | | It's interesting how you say that they're selling books on how to look after exotic reptiles. I guess that they could be displayed for sale as "educational purposes" However, some people might get the wrong idea and decide to purchase these books for all the wrong reasons?
I was in the pet shop the other day, I noticed that all of the reptile related products all had pictures of exotic species on them, I thought this was interesting/odd due to the fact that the majority of the products had corn snakes, ball pythons and boas on them - Plus exotic species of frogs, lizards, geckos etc etc. I would of thought that they would have Australian Reptiles on the covers of their products, however I think it might be because the products are manufactured over seas?
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04-May-08, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramsayi I dont see why it is a problem at all.If I decide to buy a book on how to look after elephants does that mean that I keep them in my spare room or does it mean I am just interested in them in general? I dont keep GTPs yet have a book on them,perhaps I shouldn't have brought it.
Also APS has a forum just for exotics does that mean they are encouraging the keeping of them? | again you take the words right out of my mouth ..
you have just made my BUDDY list
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04-May-08, 06:59 PM
|  | Moorebank Reptiles Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Moorebank Age/Gender: 14  | | | | what shop had them in there displays?
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04-May-08, 06:59 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | Absolutely right, it's ridiculous. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsayi I dont see why it is a problem at all.If I decide to buy a book on how to look after elephants does that mean that I keep them in my spare room or does it mean I am just interested in them in general? I dont keep GTPs yet have a book on them,perhaps I shouldn't have brought it.
Also APS has a forum just for exotics does that mean they are encouraging the keeping of them? |
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04-May-08, 07:01 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: maitland Gender:  | | | | yeah but it might be the fact that some of those snakes have a larger range of colours and is more attractive to some people but its all the same there not gonna be able to keep them out for ever but we all know that they will get here somehow look at gtps there here there isnt ment to be red ones but there here its always gonna happen and keep on happening
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04-May-08, 07:21 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Dec-07 Location: NSW, Sydney west | | | | If they only stocked Aus Herp books they would loose more than 50% of their book sales.
These pet store owners run a business & have families to feed, so why should they sacrifice 1/2 their earnings because a minority on an internet forum think it morally wrong to read about exotic species?
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04-May-08, 07:30 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Syd Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsayi I dont see why it is a problem at all.If I decide to buy a book on how to look after elephants does that mean that I keep them in my spare room or does it mean I am just interested in them in general? I dont keep GTPs yet have a book on them,perhaps I shouldn't have brought it.
Also APS has a forum just for exotics does that mean they are encouraging the keeping of them? | yea , that was my first thought too. | 
04-May-08, 07:35 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: kellyville,sydney Age/Gender: 34  | | | | just dont buy the book lol
and bring death upon any illegal cornsnakes | 
04-May-08, 09:19 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Syd | | | | I saw a book that had reptiles from all over the world in it, I was shocked
Lets have a lynching, it was Andrew Isles.
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