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05-Dec-07, 08:43 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-05 Location: Earth Gender:  | | | | re keeping
Yeh Ryano,it was a way of life for us oldies catching reptiles before they were protected,even now the onley really significant facts ive read over the last few years was the result of Pilbarra pythons catching womas in the wild,if they havent published they ought to.  |
06-Dec-07, 02:29 PM
|  | Big Hobs Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: transporting herps along the east coast Age/Gender: 35 | | | | well i think most people on here do it or have done it in the past
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06-Dec-07, 02:36 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: in the bushes Gender: | | | | when i was 8 i used to catch and keep garden skinks lol does that count |
06-Dec-07, 02:43 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: Behind You :o Age/Gender: 21 | | | | Well i dunno about reporting them straight off, talk to them and let them know what they are doing is illegal and what could happen if they are caught. Some people might just not know there is licensing, because unless you actually look to see if there is any or someone tells you theres no other way of knowing. |
06-Dec-07, 02:43 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: central coast. nsw Gender: | | | Anyone who takes reps from the wild is a tosspot.
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06-Dec-07, 02:52 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Sydney NSW Gender: | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonL  Just remember that it wasn't long ago that most reptiles kept had been illegally wild caught, and if people hadn't done it, we wouldn't have a licence system at all. Selling wild caught animals illegally or ruining habitat to get them, well thats a totally different thing. | too true Jayson.
I really don't think it's a good idea to dob someone in over things like this. Just be responsible for yourself and your own actions. |
06-Dec-07, 03:03 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Sydney NSW Gender: | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG RYANO I believe the majority of reptile keepers in this country have at some stage knowingly owned a reptile that was caught illegally, either by themselves or a friend. |
Absolutely true mate. Back in 1990 I tried to get a reptile keepers licence but the NSW NPWS just wouldn't issue any to anyone for quite a few years. You could only have 2 snakes without a licence and they had to be sourced from licenced breeders. The first legal carpet python I owned was from Gerry Swan of the AHS in 1991 for free because it was illegal to sell reptiles for money then. They had to be given for free or swapped.
But I also had WC diamonds, RBBS, Demansia psammophis, hemiaspis signata etc in my collection. I basically gave away my whole collection back then through frustration of the non issue of licences and got back into herps years later when licences were available.
I'm not condoning keeping WC animals but back then it was the normal thing and widely done by everyone. |
06-Dec-07, 03:12 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | | Dob them in..........If they have the correct lic. The authorities will already know that he is allowed to do it as they issued his lic.
Big Ryno.......You might have had to do it in the past.....but in todays world we don't just drop the "A bomb"... but we did in the past.....It's no excuse....We have no need to destroy our wild animals and there habitats. If it was injured or could not survive in the wild anymore then fine there are organisations that will take and care for them. Otherwise come and have a look at my tassie tigers I have all of them in captivity pitty there are none left in the wild but hey I am OK......
Just buy the animals from a breeder or get one that is a legally WC animal......
PS have never owned a WC animal.....just demesticated animals and licensed animals....
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06-Dec-07, 03:26 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mickydrippin if you know some is getting wild caught reptiles should you report them or name and shame them on here | I think you should mind your own frigging business for starters. I do not do it personally, but i do not hold it against someone for a pulling a snake off the road and keeping it. After all the animals that get deliberately shovelled, run over, shot etc etc one person picking up a pretty little carpet python off the road is nothing in the overall scheme of things.
However, i don't like knowing of people raping the bush, taking heaps of animals then flogging off all the animals for their own financial gain. If its on the road its fair game.
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06-Dec-07, 04:12 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender: | | | | I should further add that with the amount of destruction to vegetation being done in my shire, is nothing to a person taking one snake from the wild. After all, most people got into reptiles by catching or keeping a bluetongue as kids.
Simone. |
06-Dec-07, 04:33 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | | Agree Simone.
Colin, its amazing how far we have come since 1990 isn't it! Its been 17 years of massive improvements, but starting too see some cracks now, its time for more change I reckon.
Where we going to be in 10 more years? |
07-Dec-07, 10:42 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbowemonie I should further add that with the amount of destruction to vegetation being done in my shire, is nothing to a person taking one snake from the wild. After all, most people got into reptiles by catching or keeping a bluetongue as kids.
Simone. | Quite frankly if we’re going to move with the times these developers need to be employing the services of a native wildlife relocator to do just that – relocate, not some hairy buffoon with a shovel jumping out of his Caterpillar to despatch something trying to escape! |
07-Dec-07, 11:26 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Age/Gender: 27 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by gillsy Wild caught animals are allowed to be kept if captured on a licenses.
These licenses are only avail in NT and WA.
| These permits are also available in SA. I currently have one for Egernia inornata. |
07-Dec-07, 11:32 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | I agree with those with a sensible point of view on this subject, someone keeping one or even a couple of wild caught snakes is hardly going to move the Earth off it's axis, mind your own business and worry about real problems. It seems to be perfectly acceptable to own legally WC snakes but because someone picks a snake up off the road and keeps it they are criminals. The only difference is that someone paid some money for a permit to pick them up off the road.
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07-Dec-07, 11:42 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | | Here's some food for thought:
Under s101(5)(c)(i) of the National Parks and Wildlife Act
'A person shall not be convicted of an offence arising under subsection (1) in respect og the possession of any protected fauna, if the person satisfies the court:
that the animal concerned was incapable of fending for itself in its natural habitat'
SO,
This means you are basically allowed to take albino's from the wild legally because they are known to be unable to fend for themselves??
But..
You need to notify the Director-General and wait for his decision on what to do with the animal... Which meas SR gets it hahaha | | |
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