keeping wild caught

[slacker]

That's what I thought, herptrader :-)

[pugsly]

I can show you photos of mites on babie rodents mate. I was surprised myself.

Obviously they aren't 'reptile' mites, but that's how they got onto the snake..

[Trouble]

[quote=MannyM;1020558]Ultimately we all know it's illegal to just grab an animal from the wild and confine it to captivity.

Well I thought I should just add my 2 cents worth
Unfortunately, there are a few species we can take from the wild and keep. Now please, before you get up me and say these are wrong, I learnt this from Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, they run herpitology courses down there.
ANYWAY... the species are:

Dragons

• Ctenophorus nuchalis (central netted dragon)
• Physignathus lesuerii (Eastern Water Dragon)
• Pogona vitticeps (Central Bearded Dragon)
• Pogona barbatus (Bearded Dragon (Jew Lizard))

Gecko

• Gehyra dubia (Gecko)
• Gehyra variegata (Tree Dtella)

Lizards

• Trackydosaurus rugosus (Shingleback Lizard)
• Tiliqua scincoides (Eastern Blue-Tounge Lizard)
• Hemisphaeriodon gerradii (Pink-Tounge Lizard)

Turtles

• Chelodina longicollis (Eastern Long-neck turtle)
• Elseya latisternum (Saw-Shelled Turtle)
• Emydura kreffti (Krefft's River Turtle)

Now please remember, I'm only saying what I learnt.
Hope this was helpfull in someways.

cheers
Trouble

[slacker]

Trouble, I don't think that's the case any more. I know it used to be the case before the new laws were brought in a few years ago, but I believe it changed then. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

If I'm correct, in the new legislation it now classes everything that is not a restricted reptile or an international reptile as a recreational reptile, and for those you need a recreational wildlife permit (and you can't catch things on a rec permit).

There were some additional things to note under the old legislation anyway, such as the fact that animals could not be taken out of their "normal range" and any progeny had to be released in the area where the animal was captured. There were probably even more conditions too!

[herptrader]

Originally Posted by pugsly

I can show you photos of mites on babie rodents mate. I was surprised myself.

Obviously they aren't 'reptile' mites, but that's how they got onto the snake..

I wouldn't worry about non reptile mites on my reptiles... they won't hang around for long.

I wouldn't even worry about human mites such as head lice and the body louse.

[Trouble]

aspidites, I only did this course 2weeks ago, the booklet says "they owner must not sell or make any profit from the animal (e.g. you cant not mate two wild cought specimens and then make profit from the babies)" nor can they take more than two wild cought animals

p.s. sorry forgot how to spell lol

[pugsly]

That certainly is NOT the law for the rest of Australia... don't know what you QLDers are on lol

[slacker]

Weird! I can't find anything in the new legislation exempting animals, like there was in the old.

As I said though, I could be wrong. Maybe I am :-)

[Trouble]

well, thats what I was taught, so don't get up me

[Bouncer]

Thats incorrect Trouble, and I'm not getting up you I'd contact EPA and ask for yourself, then contact Currumbin and let them know what you find out.

[slacker]

Originally Posted by Trouble

well, thats what I was taught, so don't get up me

I just got off the phone to the EPA, and they advised me that this exemption is still in effect, but ONLY for exempt amphibians, not reptiles.

I've also let them know that Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary is advising people of this old legislation erroneously, and they have told me they will chase that up.

[Trouble]

ah ok thanks for that

[scorps]

yeah i think if beardies wherre aloud to be cought thier wouldnt be many left in the wild

[slacker]

Originally Posted by scorps

yeah i think if beardies wherre aloud to be cought thier wouldnt be many left in the wild

It was only a couple of years ago that you COULD keep them, scorps. But you couldn't breed them with your own animals (by the book, anyway) and there was restrictions on it.

I used to catch 'em all the time as a kid. Always let them go within a couple of weeks though, even though I technically could have kept them.

I do find it interesting that there's still amphibians you can do this with, but no longer any reptiles. I got the impression from the EPA that they abolished it because too many people were using it as a way to get around proper licensing--whether they were concerned about revenue or the actual wildlife, who knows.

[Bredlislave]

Originally Posted by pugsly

That certainly is NOT the law for the rest of Australia... don't know what you QLDers are on lol

eerr..ummm...(cough cough).. that's not nice Pugsly

Queenslanders are the most happy easy going laid back people on the planet IMO ..