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03-Apr-07, 02:29 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: NT Darwin Age/Gender: 25  | | | | who cares how it dies
its going to die any way!!! smashing its head on the cement works but you have to remember that not all snakes eat them dead already some like there dinner still kicking.
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03-Apr-07, 02:31 PM
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thats a great thing to say, we have a duty if care for our animals and that means if they are going to be used for food killing them in the most humane way
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03-Apr-07, 02:56 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: NT Darwin Age/Gender: 25 | | | | what its true though
my male capie is impossible to feed and he will not eat a thawed out rat and it goes off sitting there. but if he has a live and slightly there rat he will take it strate away I've tried to change him over to thawed and it doen't every work so what would you suggest for a fussy eater?
I was just stating that snakes in the wild don't wait for someone to thaw there food out do they, they take it alive and stangle it till its dead and eat it. I've seen and head too many stories of other people loosing there snakes and then finding them almost starved because it didn't know how to fend for itself in the wild.
mice bread for snake food are dead mice anyway no matter what happens.
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03-Apr-07, 03:00 PM
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yes, that eat live food in the wild, but in the wild the prey can get away, its not restriced to a cage with artificial heating and lighting so please dont compare nature to captivity, if you do have a fussy eater, try to get it eating thawed or at least fresh killed rodents
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03-Apr-07, 03:10 PM
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and it keep refusing you know I don't won't him to starve so I feed him what he will eat, I tried him again today and he didn't touch it and it just went off he hasn't eated for the last 3 weeks due to him having a shed and he still won't eat thawed. As I said he will not eat already dead rats... I try to wave it above him and still nothing. he just loves his fresh oh and his cost me just as much as it does for 6 frozen rats.
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03-Apr-07, 03:12 PM
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stop feeding him for a few months over winter, thats the best time to try new food, after 3months of no food offer a freshkilled rat
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03-Apr-07, 03:14 PM
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take them for a a swing in a pillow case (with a sudden stop). Very effective.
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03-Apr-07, 03:16 PM
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Ewww, ur wife lets u use her pillow cases fro that?
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03-Apr-07, 03:18 PM
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only when I let her have a go.
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03-Apr-07, 03:19 PM
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bloody hell thats one fisty snake I'm going to have and it doesn't matter with climates up here in darwin its the same all year round winter isn't cold up here its stays on 33degrees all years round 33 degrees is low and up to 40+ humidity through summer (dry season) so it won't do anything and 3 months is too long he has to be in top phisical condition for mating period.
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03-Apr-07, 03:23 PM
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damn, i'm moving to darwin this winter,...sounds like a sydney summer!!!
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03-Apr-07, 03:28 PM
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Hello guys! Been a while since i been here but am keen to add my 2-bobs worth.
i vote for the CO2. It doesn't hurt them. They just go to sleep. i personally can't kill any animal. I feel guilty treading on an ant. I buy mine frozen, off a reputable breeder who CO2's them and none of our customers or snakes have ever complained.
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03-Apr-07, 05:09 PM
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Without ways to carefully regulate the air / co2 concentration flowing through a chamber forget it, you cant just whack some gas in there and all is sweet.
The tail swing is much quicker.
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03-Apr-07, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pythons Rule  and it keep refusing you know I don't won't him to starve so I feed him what he will eat, I tried him again today and he didn't touch it and it just went off he hasn't eated for the last 3 weeks due to him having a shed and he still won't eat thawed. As I said he will not eat already dead rats... I try to wave it above him and still nothing. he just loves his fresh oh and his cost me just as much as it does for 6 frozen rats. |
Not knocking you but try using large tweezers and present the rat... provoke a strike and feed coil reaction... dont let go and then give it a jiggle, after its coiled, to mimick it kicking...have seen heaps of feeds this way... works all the time unless its a juvi and this is on snakes who have previously lived on live kills. And if people are losing their snakes then they are pretty slack... get a better enclosure... captive snakes shouldn't have to be trained to hunt in the wild as they should never be released.
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03-Apr-07, 05:53 PM
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what about an electric shock, however isnt drowning the most pleasant way to die?
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