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15-Apr-08, 12:19 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-05 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD | | | Lace Monitor Bells Phase distribution.
I am trying to roughly map the distribution of Bells Phase lacies over the range of normal lacies. Could anybody please advise known localities (particularly southern and western localities). Pm me if you prefer. |
15-Apr-08, 04:05 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: mornington peninsula,vic Age: 33 | | | | dan they were believed to be mostly found inland,but they have been found on the coast in southern qld,would be intersting to see where they range |
15-Apr-08, 04:11 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-04 Location: Western Sydney | | | | All over the place. One has been sighted in south western Sydney fairly recently. Not an escaped pet either, it was in a wilderness area.
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15-Apr-08, 04:23 PM
|  | Sdaji Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Victoria | | | | I was surprised to see photographs of one from northern Victoria earlier this year. It's a Mendelian dominant I believe. Since normal vs Bell's comes down to one single allele, and Lacies have the ability to move great distances, it wouldn't be surprising if the distribution is very unstable.
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15-Apr-08, 04:55 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-05 Location: Goulburn Valley Gender:  | | | | We have seen various Bell's form Lacies around our area in the past. |
15-Apr-08, 05:03 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Canberra Age/Gender: 20 | | | | Sdaji, if it was dominant wouldn't that mean that any clutch with a Bell's involved would be all Bell's phase? I havent bred them myself, nor do i actually know anyone who has, but i have seen photo's of clutches and they usually have a few normal phase mixed in, this could just be that the breeder has mixed up clutches... |
15-Apr-08, 07:51 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-05 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by anguskennedy  Sdaji, if it was dominant wouldn't that mean that any clutch with a Bell's involved would be all Bell's phase? I havent bred them myself, nor do i actually know anyone who has, but i have seen photo's of clutches and they usually have a few normal phase mixed in, this could just be that the breeder has mixed up clutches... | If both bells parents are heterozygous for the trait then hatchlings will be 50% bells hets and 50% normals. |
15-Apr-08, 07:56 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-06 Location: mid north coast | | | | seen a fair few around here at port macqaurie, all different sizes
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15-Apr-08, 10:06 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Canberra Age/Gender: 20 | | | | Haha right you are Dan, woops my bad. It would be 25% homo dominants, 50% hets and 25% normal phase though wouldn't it? |
15-Apr-08, 10:19 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-06 Location: mornington peninsula,vic Age: 33 | | | | i have a pair of normals produced from a clutch from a male bells and a female normal,there were bells juvies in the same clutch as mine,what are the odds of them producing bells babies if bred to each other????? |
16-Apr-08, 07:10 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-05 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by anguskennedy Haha right you are Dan, woops my bad. It would be 25% homo dominants, 50% hets and 25% normal phase though wouldn't it? | Sorry, you are right. My results would be for a het Bells x normal. |
16-Apr-08, 07:12 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-05 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by richardsc i have a pair of normals produced from a clutch from a male bells and a female normal,there were bells juvies in the same clutch as mine,what are the odds of them producing bells babies if bred to each other????? | Zero. Because the mutation is dominant , any normal coloured animal is only that. i.e. a normal animal cannot carry the Bells gene. If it carried the gene it would have to appear as a Bells. |
16-Apr-08, 08:26 AM
| | | | danny i've seen them at stanthorpe, nyngan (many), taree and i know of two found around warringah, northern beaches sydney, heard of them near wilcannia and lightning ridge as the predominant lacey with few "normals" in those areas. hope this helps. |
16-Apr-08, 09:09 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Logan City | | | | Hi Danny,I have seen one at Jourama Falls up past Townsville,and lots at Charleville,in fact dont think Ive seen a normal one there. |
16-Apr-08, 09:25 AM
| | | | albino, did you actually see the animals found around the northern beaches Sydney or were you just
told about it as I find this very interesting if true. | | |
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