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View Poll Results: Are diamonds and Coastals the same genus ???? | |
Yes, therefore subspecies of each other
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No, different genus altogether
|    | 7 | 12.96% | |
don't know
|    | 5 | 9.26% |  | | 
09-Nov-06, 06:09 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: NSW Country | | | I am starting this poll to answer the base question of an ongoing debate which causes much dispute. I know some of you know where this is going to lead and I ask that you not go into it just yet. Let's just see what the populus comes up with... From there we will ave further discussion on that much asked question | 
09-Nov-06, 06:12 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Sydney | | | | *looks for poll or question*
Can't find it.
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Originally Posted by Wrasse Be the tree. | | 
09-Nov-06, 06:13 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | What poll ?
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09-Nov-06, 06:16 PM
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1 x Eastern Blue tongue
1 x Central Bearded Dragon
1 x Murray Darling Carpet Python
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09-Nov-06, 06:38 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: NSW Country | | | | the one up top lol | 
09-Nov-06, 06:44 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: May-05 Location: wide bay queensland | | | i have it.
cheers. | 
09-Nov-06, 06:44 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | I'm not quite sure why you asked the question, they are obviously the same genus.
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09-Nov-06, 06:45 PM
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09-Nov-06, 06:46 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | | They are the same genus and species the only debatable issue is if they are the same subspecies. Someone or something i read lead me to believe that due their genes they are the same subspecies does anyone know any details about this? | 
09-Nov-06, 07:03 PM
|  | I Eat Cats Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 20  | | | | They are certainly the same genus....according to recent taxonomy even GTP and COastal Carpets are the same genus...so did you mean to ask if they were the same species or subspecies? | 
09-Nov-06, 07:22 PM
|  | Willia6 fan Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Victoria Gender:  | | | | Just because something is in the same genus doesn't mean its a subspecies. Totally different things.
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09-Nov-06, 07:42 PM
| | Moderator Moderator | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Sydney, NSW,Australia | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Veredus They are certainly the same genus....according to recent taxonomy even GTP and COastal Carpets are the same genus...so did you mean to ask if they were the same species or subspecies? |
From my understanding of the DNA research by Rawlings, Donellan & co is that it appears that all subspecies of carpets are on a DNA basis the same except for Bredli and Imbricata, GTP's weren't mentioned as far as I was aware, neither were Carinata.
As far as I am aware the abtract published was just that, and the full paper hasn't been released to there peers for review and disection, so I don't think we can be saying that anything is one way or another until this has happened, this could typically take years.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Neil | 
09-Nov-06, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NCHERPS From my understanding of the DNA research by Rawlings, Donellan & co is that it appears that all subspecies of carpets are on a DNA basis the same except for Bredli and Imbricata, GTP's weren't mentioned as far as I was aware, neither were Carinata.
As far as I am aware the abtract published was just that, and the full paper hasn't been released to there peers for review and disection, so I don't think we can be saying that anything is one way or another until this has happened, this could typically take years.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Neil | Thanks for that, thats basically what i heard or read with a bit more info. | 
09-Nov-06, 09:39 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: NSW Country | | | | now we are starting to get somewhere | 
09-Nov-06, 09:46 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Somewhere near Brisbane | | | | I don't get it, where are we getting ? All carpets are morelia and always will be unless they change the genus which is possible but they will remain the same genus regardless.
What I don't get is how/why 3 people have voted that Diamonds and Coastals are in a different genus.
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