Aussie Pythons and Snakes

SLACkra · #1 14-Jun-05, 10:48 PM

ok reading a bit about it. basically its a venomous snake with its venom glands removed. just wondering how humane it is to cut up the snake as i heard of some people doing nasty things to make snakes venomoid (pulling out fangs plus glands on an only chilled snake).

also if you have a venomoid snake do you still have to have a venomous snake handling thingy? technically its not venomous but some how i don't think the gov would know the difference...

your thoughts and opiniouns please,

andrew

craig.a.c · #2 14-Jun-05, 10:53 PM

I think it is inhumane and down right bloody cruel. Would you like it if someone cut out your saliva glands??? I think not. (not having ago at you if it came across that way)

diamond_python · #3 14-Jun-05, 10:55 PM

I agree. I don't even agree with desexing animals. Leave them be I say

jimmy_the_kid · #4 14-Jun-05, 10:57 PM

I didnt know it was possible to do this and have the snake survive more then a few months

demansia · #5 14-Jun-05, 10:57 PM

Its disgusting. If someone is fter a snake which can be handled like a python then they should get a bloody python!

moosenoose · #6 14-Jun-05, 10:58 PM

I'm dead against it! Don't get one if you can't respect it for what it is! (I'm not having a go either Andrew)

I love vens, and if I pick one up and get bitten by it then it's because of my stupidity! I can't bring myself to crippling an animal simply because I want the personal joy of handling it! ? Give it to me fangs and all hehehehe

Hix · #7 14-Jun-05, 11:00 PM

SLACkra,

If you check the archives, there were a total of four threads last year titled "Venomoids", and the topic was mentioned in a few other threads. The discussions cover the procedure, the pros and cons, and of course, includes the usual argueing and name calling.

Hix

basketcase · #8 14-Jun-05, 11:00 PM

i really cant understand why ppl do it. its part of the reason to keep them. it should never ever be done, and ppl who do it should received massive fines/gaol time

its barbaric, and if anyone was caught pulling all the teeth out of a german shepard without anesthetic for no good reason they'd cop it big time. so why shouldnt idiots that devenomise snakes

Bob2 · #9 14-Jun-05, 11:05 PM

How do you feed a snake with no fangs?

Mcdowelli · #10 14-Jun-05, 11:05 PM

Overseas there are problems with people cutting snakes up to remove the venom glands without having any real veterinary knowledge. One person did this last year here (no prizes for guessing who) and did some pretty dodgy work with them. They also claimed that they were the first venomoids in Australia, which is incorrect. There are venomoids here, which have had the operations performed legally by qualified vets. As far as i am aware NPWS make no distinction between snakes which are venomoids and are not, so therefore to keep a venomoid snake you would still have to qualify for a venomous licence.

Personally, if this operation is performed by a vet, i do not have much of a problem with it. I do have a problem with someone who shall remain nameless strapping snakes down to a table with nails and rubber bands and pulling out the venom glands, for the purpose of being able to free handle a bunch of tigers, red-bellys and browns in order to show off during his snake shows.

peterescue · #11 14-Jun-05, 11:12 PM

I am against the surgical modification of animals for display purposes.
If it doesnt suit your needs then campaign to change the situation, not the animal.

toxinologist · #12 14-Jun-05, 11:16 PM

Right then

... I'll just leave this room before I get the urge to rip some moronic taxi driver's heart out

and use it clean the toilet bowl ...

DEATH TO DR FRANKENSNAKE

BRING BACK THE NOOSE

BROWNS · #13 14-Jun-05, 11:20 PM

Damn straight basket!!!

demansia · #14 14-Jun-05, 11:34 PM

Bob2, feeding isnt really the issue as dead food will not need to be killed but there are still concerns about how venom effects digestion so what impact would having the venom glands remove have? Could anyone extend this answer?
Brendan.

Moclobe · #15 14-Jun-05, 11:39 PM

Mcdowelli

I think that you would have a very hard time in Australia finding a vet that would perform this operation. From my discussion with different vets and the Australia Veterinarian Association any vet that performed this operation would be frowned upon unless there is a very good reason.

I have yet to hear of a very good reason to perform this surgery.

Regards David