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09-Apr-08, 10:23 AM
|  | I Eat Cats Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 20  | | | | I have some adult gillens and a 4x2x2 enclosure is plenty for a trio. These are very active and inquisitive lizards and I agree 100% with Aslan that you will likely come to think of your dragons as being a little boring after keeping monitors. | 
09-Apr-08, 11:02 AM
| | | Dan19 can i get contact details for some of those 1 mtr tristis.  | 
09-Apr-08, 11:08 AM
|  | Impatient Snake Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Sydney Gender:  | | | Cruester - I hope you're old enough to keep and breed Tristis - I must insist on seeing some current identification to your purchase... 
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09-Apr-08, 02:43 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Perth Age/Gender: 22  | | | | agreed 100% with asian...........
the general concencous for keeping a breeding pair of tristis or even a trio is 6x2x2ft of course bigger is better and i have 5 adults to cater for hence the large enclosure i built | 
09-Apr-08, 07:34 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Sydney NSW Gender:  | | | Aslan - thanks for the info...and the back up LOL!!! it will probably come to be that but i will still love my lil Wez and minka!!! i hope   and if thats the case...i can always switch or sell them!!!
sweet, good to know i can keep a trio in there
thanks for the link too and again the info!!! kenshin - so abviously you've had experience with tristis before...i haven't worked out yet...so i can keep a trio in a 5ft W x 3ft D x 3ft H or should i make it 6ft wide instead? anyone - i reckon ridges will be my first monitors very closly followed by gilleni if i can make a switch! ( hint hint )   Veredus - thanks, i guess its certain for for the spiny tails and the gilleni then that they are gonna be in a 4ft W x 2ft D x 2ft H for my planed trio
any more infomation on localitys, colour phases, pics, enclosure design layout ANYTHING!!! is very much apperciated
cheers,
Luke
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09-Apr-08, 07:37 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Perth Age/Gender: 22  | | | | luke you could get away with houseing a trio in a 5x3x3 especially if you make really good use of the back and or side walls give them heaps to climb to increase the surface area | 
09-Apr-08, 07:45 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Australia Gender:  | | | Did not mean for that to be an attack on Luke at all, but was just curious about it all because it is hard to keep one monitor let alone 8+. I am sorry for confusing you luke about the monitors, was thinking about spencers. I say go ahead with it all and dont let what i said bring you down.  | 
09-Apr-08, 07:46 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Sydney NSW Gender:  | | | | kenshin:thanks, i have a really cool hollow log i got from a friend and a heaps and heaps of logs also from him but what do you mean by increase the surface area???
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09-Apr-08, 07:55 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: CQ | | | | You increase surface area, by increasing the usable areas within the enclosure.
Kenshin suggestion is a good one.
Basically by texturing the walls of the enclosure/adding artificial rock walls, will
increase the surface area available to the goannas (even wooden lattice)
As well as every tree branch adding to the usable surface area..
A bare enclosure with smooth walls and nothing to climb on would only have a
usable surface area as large as the floor space.
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09-Apr-08, 09:06 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Sydney NSW Gender:  | | | | oooooh!!! i get it!!! i had an idea for the smaller monitors (all but the sandies) to have expanda foam leadge eve so often on the walls! could i use a peice of wood as a ledge???
i don't really like the idea of lattice but sort of like that could have lots of horizontal peices of wood screwed to the back work basically the same way?
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09-Apr-08, 09:32 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-08 Location: South West Victoria Age/Gender: 33  | | | | gillens Hey there, was just wandering, what is the average lifespan for the pygmy mulgas?
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10-Apr-08, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Luke1 oooooh!!! i get it!!! i had an idea for the smaller monitors (all but the sandies) to have expanda foam leadge eve so often on the walls! could i use a peice of wood as a ledge???
i don't really like the idea of lattice but sort of like that could have lots of horizontal peices of wood screwed to the back work basically the same way?
Luke | Luke - Think of it this way - any space that becomes usable to them is a benefit...it increases the effective 'size' of your enclosure...
If you screwed lattice to every wall then the Monitor could then climb every wall - if you screwed a series of shelves to the back wall or got some fake rock ones then all that shelving becomes additional usable 'floor' space for the Monitor...
'Stack' hides are perfect for this, they increase the usable surface area by a large amount and increase the usable heat gradient...
It doesn't really matter HOW you do it - use your imagination - but by increasing the usable space you can comfortably house the monitors in those size enclosures... Dan - Monitors aren't difficult to look after - certainly much easier than a Beardie!
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10-Apr-08, 06:21 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Sydney NSW Gender:  | | | | Aslan: thanks again, i didn't really like the idea that they could get behind and then i wouldn't be able to get him out LOL nah, if the monitor is happy, then im happy! i will work out something and see what you guys think!!!
Luke
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11-Apr-08, 06:49 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Sydney NSW Gender:  | | | | bumping up this thread, want as much info as possible
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11-Apr-08, 11:26 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: SouthAustralia Gender:  | | | | hi Luke.....yep totally agree with Aslan.....monitors are easier....
but personally i have more fun with the dragons
Im currently waterproofing a 3ft habitat...for my little lady....
putting in a shelf ...under bake light...& symmetrically on the other side
the stack is in the middle....with a heat mat under the stack under the tiled floor
with a ceramic plant pot filled with sand for digging....under the bake light
and the plant pot under dish for water...on the other side(opposite)
as she has trouble gripping...i will be adding small wooden pieces liken to steps on the walls
similar to what rock climbers would use,these will be drilled to the walls...
i hope you can imagine this?...lol...im so hopeless at pics...but will try to send you some when ive finished next week!
I really appreciate threads such as yours to do with monitors.....life is all about learning!...thankyou |  | | |