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Old 16-Oct-07, 04:13 PM
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most pople just call him the dragon and tap on his glass to see if he will start dancing for them.
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I stand by what I said in that post. It is not the same as what Cris said. The shop in question in that thread is not the same as the shops being discussed in this one. The shop being discussed in the other thread is nothing more than a torture chamber. As I said in the post you point out, the majority of shops which sell reptiles in Victoria are bad, sell poached animals, etc etc. Saying "the majority" is not the same as saying "all". I've never said that they -all- poach -most- of their animals. -Some- poach -most- of their animals. -Most- poach -at least- -some- of their animals.

The problems common to -all- shops include the lack of quarantine (it's just not possible), the increased stress to animals due to the extra move and being put on display, usually immediately after being moved, etc etc.

I do not in any way wish to imply that I'm saying anything at all good about Upmarket Aquariums, but I didn't make the choice to jump into this thread and hadn't planned to comment in it.
It is still slander no matter how you put , It is not right to slander melbourne like that with out any evidence.
 
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It is still slander no matter how you put , It is not right to slander melbourne like that with out any evidence.
right so you are saying he has no evidence? you do realise he was from melbourne up until recently and has like many other people on this site seen some very bad things in pet shops and if you cant see it you need to open up your eyes. and there is some very good petshops in melbourne but not very many
 
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right so you are saying he has no evidence? you do realise he was from melbourne up until recently and has like many other people on this site seen some very bad things in pet shops and if you cant see it you need to open up your eyes. and there is some very good petshops in melbourne but not very many
Yes I can read and see , all the one's I have to have been clean and tidy with healthy animals . ( except the spirngvale one. ) . maybe it's just better in the east side .
 
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Yes I can read and see , all the one's I have to have been clean and tidy with healthy animals . ( except the spirngvale one. ) . maybe it's just better in the east side .
no the problem is half of these shops sell crap animals that are way overpriced and some have barely any idea on the subject and imho should not be selling herps at all let alone giving advice on them
 
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but as i said in my earlier post there are some excellent ones around such as animal attraction who actually know what they are talking about and are not just in it for a dollar
 
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Other herping pet shops could learn a lot from Upmarket and Pails.

As for the "too expensive" claim to me this is not overly valid. Pet shops cannot compete with non shop front outlets but provide a different service (eg you see exactly what you are buying as you purchase it.) On the animal front purchasing directly from the breeder (eg: through the Herp Trader) should be and generally is cheaper but you won't get to see as much of a range when you make your purchase.

Pet shops are in business to make a profit. If they are doing a good job, their prices will appropriately reflect this.
I have to agree with herptrader.
While petshops like pailsforscales & upmarket pets are always going to be more expensive than private breeders. Due to their overheads.
While both shops sell very good animals.
I find pails for scales a better alternative as it is a more relaxed atmosphere as it is not as crowded and is much easier to relax & shop around.
I also find that Roy Pails probably has the best and most knowledgible staff you can findthat are always very friendly & helpful.
Plus Roy being one of the founders with Brian Barnett of the reptile industry in Australia and the majority of the time you will find him in the shop to assist in your enquiries or purchases.
Plus he also employs a veterinary nurse and Mick Pugh a very knowledgible aquarium speciallist and also one the original reptile speciallist.
 
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Yes I can read and see , all the one's I have to have been clean and tidy with healthy animals . ( except the spirngvale one. ) . maybe it's just better in the east side .
Wow, are you slandering the one in Springvale? The one you were just telling me off for slandering?
 
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