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07-Jun-04, 05:56 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Ipswich | | | Hello Folks,
Better start off with an introduction. Browndog is the name and I've recently moved to Brisbane from Sydney and have decided to indulge in one of my childhood passions and take on a Python as a pet. Being 40 I grew up in a outer northern suburb of Sydney and if I was not at school then I was down the bush annoying the local wildlife. We were always bring home Water Skinks (only the huge ones) Blue tongues, Beardies, Easterns, Cunningham Skinks and the occasional Goanna or Diamond Python. Probably the rarest Herp to come my way was a Burtons Legless Lizard. These fellows were kept for varying amounts of time before eventually being released back down the scrub.
I'd really love to get a Diamond, though SWMBO would not be impressed by the cost when I can get a Carpet Python from a local guy for $120 so a Carpet Python it is. I am a carpenter by trade and did a spell as an aquarium builder so I'm going to build all my enclosures myself. Now for the questions.
Will an 18"L*12"H*10"H aquarium be suitable to keep the fellow in for the first year or so and if so, how do you go about keeping part of it warm and not turning the whole thing into a snakey type sauna ?
I have two pieces of 6mm glass 900mm * 900mm and intend to use these to create an 1800mm high by 900mm wide by 600mm deep. Would it be better if I just made the enclosure 900mm * 900mm * 600mm then after another year or so add the other section to bring it up to the 1800mm height ?
On another note, not long after my wife and I move in, she was out the front clearing an overgrown garden bed and alerted me to the fact that she had seen a blue snake I didn't believe her but sure enough I saw it with my own eyes. It was about 18 inches long and sky blue in colour. At the time I thought it was a legless lizard but searching on the internet has failed to find a blue lizard or snake. Anyone have an idea what it might be ?
cheers
Browndog | 
07-Jun-04, 05:59 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: sydney | | | | tree snake imo. harmless colubrid. :wink:
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07-Jun-04, 06:15 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | Welcome brown dog, being a nwebie myself cant answer any of your questions, but thought i would just say welcome! | 
07-Jun-04, 06:31 PM
| | Seller | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney | | | | Hi Browndog, welcome to the site!
About the size of your enclosure, how big is your Carpet; is it a hatchie, or an adult? | 
07-Jun-04, 06:40 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Brisbane | | | | Brown - it's a Green Tree Snake. They're are many different colour forms of it. Totally harmless, but they will emit a very disgusting odour if you handle them. Sometimes they are called Yellow Bellied Black Snakes, too.
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07-Jun-04, 06:42 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | are green tree snakes , yellow bellied black snakes? i thought the yellow belly were poisonous | 
07-Jun-04, 06:46 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: central coast N.S.W. | | | | Browndog, [b]GREAT AGE.
If you can afford it build an enclosure that will suit the snake when it's fully grown. Just divide it up now & take out the temporary divders later. Maybe saving money down the track & the posibility of making some thru breeding might put SWMBO at ease. ( worked for me).
Cheers Buggie.[/i] | 
07-Jun-04, 06:49 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Brisbane | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Blue_Streak are green tree snakes , yellow bellied black snakes? i thought the yellow belly were poisonous | Hence the reason lots of GTS's get killed each year.
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07-Jun-04, 06:51 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-04 Location: Brisbane | | | damn me and my mundane kind  | 
07-Jun-04, 06:53 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | Re: Questions from a newbie Quote: |
Originally Posted by Browndog Hello Folks, | Hello and welcome Quote: |
Originally Posted by Browndog ..I am a carpenter by trade and did a spell as an aquarium builder ... | Done both myself - very useful when the reptile bug bites Quote: |
Originally Posted by Browndog Will an 18"L*12"H*10"H aquarium be suitable to keep the fellow in for the first year or so and if so, how do you go about keeping part of it warm and not turning the whole thing into a snakey type sauna ? | The size is fine for a small snake, remember they don't like open spaces, too many predators out there 
In Brisse I would make the back out of peg board and cover over it during the winter with some ply. Have 2 vents on each end, one high and one low
I've attached a photo of my smaller cages so you can steal some ideas.
One thing - keep out of the direct sun. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Browndog I have two pieces of 6mm glass 900mm * 900mm and intend to use these to create an 1800mm high by 900mm wide by 600mm deep. Would it be better if I just made the enclosure 900mm * 900mm * 600mm then after another year or so add the other section to bring it up to the 1800mm height ? | Another idea is to make the enclosure with a partition. Trouble with that is you will see another snake, think "I can keep that in the spare partiton" and so it starts. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Browndog On another note, not long after my wife and I move in, she was out the front clearing an overgrown garden bed and alerted me to the fact that she had seen a blue snake I didn't believe her but sure enough I saw it with my own eyes. It was about 18 inches long and sky blue in colour. At the time I thought it was a legless lizard but searching on the internet has failed to find a blue lizard or snake. Anyone have an idea what it might be ?
cheers
Browndog | its proberly a Green tree snake Dendrelaphis punctulata, normally green but can be almost any color from black to yellow. Nearly always has a yellow belly and will normally retreat and about the speed of sound. They aren't the bravest kid on the block. | 
07-Jun-04, 07:00 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | HOLY BJESUS, those enclosures look awesome fuscus!!! | 
07-Jun-04, 07:07 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: central coast N.S.W. | | | | Fuscus wrote" and so it starts".
What do you mean?LOL. Blimey just ask SWMBO! | 
07-Jun-04, 07:10 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | SWMBO ?? | 
07-Jun-04, 07:13 PM
|  | Old Administrator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney south, NSW Age/Gender: 54  | | | | Welcome in our group mate. Hope that you will enjoy company of many reptile lovers here on APS. | 
07-Jun-04, 07:13 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: central coast N.S.W. | | | | She Who Must Be Obeyed.
You must be tired Fuscus. Have a little lie down. |  | | |