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21-May-08, 05:34 PM
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Good thread, I too am interested in uping my breeding program, just not sure how too which is cost effective and time saving.
I'll post a new thread nervous, so not to hijack yours...
Cheers
scott
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21-May-08, 05:47 PM
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its kool just ask it here im interested in it aswell so no worrys
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cheers
Ben.......
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21-May-08, 06:07 PM
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Thanks Ben, nice gesture!
I've heard experiences that people keep mum's and Bubs in a communal container, in your case a bathtub Ben and then put the females in breeding tubs with the males when they are old enough. Put back into the communal tank when pregnant/nursing and so on...
Oh, should note, remove and freeze/feed males in communal tank to stop breeding in there.
I like the idea of the girls helping out with nursing and caring for babies etc, plus not having 10,000 tubs to clean.
Sounds good in theory, Is this a good way to do it?
Cheers
Scott.
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21-May-08, 06:12 PM
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yeah thats how i do it
big communities and take out the pregger ones
once their litter are weened chuck the female backin with the communtiy and then
u do what ever u want with the litter
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21-May-08, 06:21 PM
|  | Pure Pwnage. Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Central QLD Age/Gender: 18  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by liberty  yeah thats how i do it
big communities and take out the pregger ones
once their litter are weened chuck the female backin with the communtiy and then
u do what ever u want with the litter | Only bad thing about that is the females get no rest in between litters. I only use the bathtub for growing out feeders.
My breeder females are in tubs, with a max of two females in each and males get cycled through until they are pregnant. They then have the privacy to give birth / rear the litters with the help of a friend, and after they are weaned or whatever, I can give them as long as I want to rest - which is usually 4 weeks from when the litter is weaned.
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21-May-08, 06:26 PM
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yeah i can c ur point with the rest thing.
but as i have said before what works for some one doesnt work for others
i was useing ur method of cycling the males through but i wasnt getting very good litter numbers
now i have changed ways and getting much better numbers
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21-May-08, 06:27 PM
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I like to make sure a male is around at all times to ensure the females are pretty much constantly pregnant
removing a pregnant female from the male/s until she has given birth and weaned her litter isnt efficient,
if your interested in getting as much out of your females as possible.
Rats are built to breed like this.
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21-May-08, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Australis I like to make sure a male is around at all times to ensure the females are pretty much constantly pregnant
removing a pregnant female from the male/s until she has given birth and weaned her litter isnt efficient,
if your interested in getting as much out of your females as possible.
Rats are built to breed like this. | They are not machines, I prefer to give them a little respect.
Just because they can breed that often, doesnt mean they should, its not healthy for them
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21-May-08, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Australis I like to make sure a male is around at all times to ensure the females are pretty much constantly pregnant
removing a pregnant female from the male/s until she has given birth and weaned her litter isnt efficient,
if your interested in getting as much out of your females as possible.
Rats are built to breed like this. | That's sounds the go, as we are only breeding for food, not pets or selling as pets.
How do you do it Australis ie set-up etc.
Interested to know!
Cheers
scott.
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21-May-08, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VixenBabe They are not machines, I prefer to give them a little respect.
Just because they can breed that often, doesnt mean they should, its not healthy for them | HHmmmm, I agree with that comment and concern as well VixenBabe, even though they are food, I still think their cute and are of course a living creatureand it wouldn't be good for them as you say!
But where do you draw that line?
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21-May-08, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Southside Morelia we are only breeding for food, not pets or selling as pets. | So that makes a difference whether they should be treated humanely or not?
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21-May-08, 06:48 PM
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No not at all, I agree with you!
I don't think I could put a female through so much strain...I love animals and although we bred rats for food, I can't treat an animal inhumanly! It was a hypothetical question as I haven't done this at your guys level (have always bought in bulk frozen rodents) and wanted to know your thoughts! That's all!
Scott.
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21-May-08, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VixenBabe They are not machines, I prefer to give them a little respect.
Just because they can breed that often, doesnt mean they should, its not healthy for them | What about constant breeding isnt healthy for them?
If im wrong im happy to concede my error, but really rodents are rodents, its what they do.
I could argue your use of rest periods between litters shows less respect for the animal
than my way (well actually the rats natural way).
Anywways, your welcome to start another thread dedicated to rodent respect if you wish
getting a little off the bath tub topic.
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21-May-08, 06:51 PM
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this is how i keep my rats ,, it holds about 50-60 of all sizes and only takes up 110cm x 70cm
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21-May-08, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thepythonpit this is how i keep my rats ,, it holds about 50-60 of all sizes and only takes up 110cm x 70cm | thepythonpit...great setup can you get me a few pics of different angles so I can see how it all goes together.
Cheers
Andrew
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