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21-May-08, 06:59 PM
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i mean we all breed them for food not pets
this all has to be take in consideration when u want to house and breed hundreds of them to keep collections fed
as long as u provide them with the essentials u arent doing anything wrong, if there is anything that can be done wrong to a rat or mouse
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21-May-08, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thepythonpit  this is how i keep my rats ,, it holds about 50-60 of all sizes and only takes up 110cm x 70cm | Thats exactly how my setup will be, except with an extra row, so 10 tubs total 
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21-May-08, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TANN-MANN thepythonpit...great setup can you get me a few pics of different angles so I can see how it all goes together.
Cheers
Andrew | Yeah me to Andrew, that's really compact and neat, looks good!
How do you actually organise your breeding regime/cycle with this set-up as well?
Am I trying to complicate this whole concept or what?
I usually do with most things, lol
Cheers Scott
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21-May-08, 07:04 PM
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nice lookign rack u have there
but 1 question how do those tubs go holding the weight of a few large breeders in there
other wise looks great
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21-May-08, 07:08 PM
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top two are the breeding tubs , 1 male to 5 females , next four tubs are for mums and bubs and the bottom 2 are what i feed my snakes from ,, water needs to be done every day ( unless you have auto water system ) but food lasts a week or more before needing topup,,,
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21-May-08, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by liberty nice lookign rack u have there
but 1 question how do those tubs go holding the weight of a few large breeders in there
other wise looks great | the tubs are very tough , thay are from bunnings $7.90 each and there used for garden and concrete mixing , unlike the clear plastic ones these are very hard to break
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21-May-08, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thepythonpit | Cool understand the concept!
1st pic food view from underneath,
2nd pic view of food from camera mounted to rats head  ,
3rd pic self explanatory.
LOL had to say it..
Good setup no doubt!
Cheers
Scott.
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21-May-08, 07:19 PM
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I think Australis has the right idea. Do you really think female rats are given a 4 week break outside the confines of a rat breeding tub? I think not. They would be lucky to last a week before falling pregnant again. Rats have adpated to do two things. Live a short and fulfilling life, and make babies, lots and lots of babies. I think however, if we want to talk humane care that hides should always be provided to any animal whether it be for feeder animals or pets. Animals require three things to survive a happy life. Food, water and shelter.
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21-May-08, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mcloughlin2 I think Australis has the right idea. Do you really think female rats are given a 4 week break outside the confines of a rat breeding tub? I think not. They would be lucky to last a week before falling pregnant again. Rats have adpated to do two things. Live a short and fulfilling life, and make babies, lots and lots of babies. I think however, if we want to talk humane care that hides should always be provided to any animal whether it be for feeder animals or pets. Animals require three things to survive a happy life. Food, water and shelter. | Fair call!
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21-May-08, 07:26 PM
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over the years i have noticed that i get 1 year full breeding out of a rat before litter sizes start to decrese and thay die , if i rest them bettwen liters i can get 2 years out of them,
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21-May-08, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mcloughlin2 Animals require three things to live a healthy life. Food, water and shelter. | No, that is just the essenstials to survive 
Rats are very intelligent creatures and should have mental and psychical stimulation. If people didnt have the privelege of keeping and breeding rodents then bye bye to everyones reptile collections, I think they deserve a little more respect than majority of people give them.
I would laugh at the day if there is a crackdown on battery farming rodents, there goes most peoples line of food and suppliers until they up their standards 
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21-May-08, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thepythonpit over the years i have noticed that i get 1 year full breeding out of a rat before litter sizes start to decrese and thay die , if i rest them bettwen liters i can get 2 years out of them, | Exactly.
God forbid people having to wait a few weeks for another litter, it would be unbearable
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21-May-08, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by VixenBabe No, that is just the essenstials to survive
Rats are very intelligent creatures and should have mental and psychical stimulation. If people didnt have the privelege of keeping and breeding rodents then bye bye to everyones reptile collections, I think they deserve a little more respect than majority of people give them.
I would laugh at the day if there is a crackdown on battery farming rodents, there goes most peoples line of food and suppliers until they up their standards
[/rant] | So how many rats do you run in you "humane" system? And do you have food in bowls in the containers with them, How many off spring does it supply monthly?
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21-May-08, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VixenBabe No, that is just the essenstials to survive
Rats are very intelligent creatures and should have mental and psychical stimulation. If people didnt have the privelege of keeping and breeding rodents then bye bye to everyones reptile collections, I think they deserve a little more respect than majority of people give them.
I would laugh at the day if there is a crackdown on battery farming rodents, there goes most peoples line of food and suppliers until they up their standards
[/rant] | Stop it Vixenbabe, your tugging on my sensitive side...I agree with both sides and now i'm more confused than ever... 
I think I like the more conservative approach to breeding, ie give the female a bit of respect (or a rest in this case)...Although the other side of the debate makes perfect sense as well, I personally don't think I can do it like that!
Thanks everyone and Ben, who started the thread, I have learn't heaps...
Cheers guys,
Scott.
Sorry boys, showing my sensative side here, have to go with the girls on this one, but I can live with that!  | | |
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