snake with no tongue

[junglemad]

mental note...don't post any good news or the so-called experts will be on you like a shot.

And to you Austherps...continue to refrain from posting coz you're full of it!

[junglemad]

Plus Austherps, pick on me if you like and call me stupid, though we've never met, but don't put crap on this whole site. It is bigger than both of us...especially you

[lutzd]

Hi JM. I gotta say, I think they were giving you good advice. I keep two snakes in the one enclosure too, but ALWAYS remove them and seperate then for feeding, and give them time to calm down before putting them back in the cage.

Ok, maybe they could have put it in a more polite fashion, but I think you are asking for trouble. I did the same as you when I first started.... until one of them finished before the other and he went for the mouse that the other one was eating! If I hadn't been there, and if the aggressive one had got a better grip it would have been all over red rover.

Also, feeding OUT of the enclosure means they don't [always] associate movement in their enclosure with food.

I've also read a story [don't know how true it was] that two snakes started eating a mouse from each end and one of them ate 50% if the other one. They both died.

But hey, that's just from my limited experience. I PERSONALLY don't think it's a good idea, that's all. If you want to do it, then by all means go for it. ........but my advice to newbies is .... don't! ;-)

[lutzd]

Originally Posted by junglemad

I thought they only found their prey by scent but he must be relying on heat to strike.

Size wise he is a bonsai, but he will go from here. He is about 18 inches and as round as a pencil. I have pics to post of his feast but i can't upload any more and i don't know how to delete the ones i have posted to make room.

If you PM me, I can delete them for you, but I need to know how far back you want to go with the deletions.

[rascal779]

Hey Junglemad
Great to hear you got it feeding; it’s always good to hear positive stories.
But the main reason I stopped posting my stories in aussiepythons is because of the amount of bored people who will pick the **** out of what you do with your herps instead of being positive.

Here is something to take the heat off Junglemad, I feed my snakes live 20% of the time………
I sometimes feed with two in an enclosure…..
And I sometimes house up to 3 in an enclosure….

Before anyone replies to my post, remember….don’t assume you know the diminutive details.

But if you would genuinely like to know why I do this then please ask.

[dugadugabowbow]

Originally Posted by junglemad

mental note...don't post any good news or the so-called experts will be on you like a shot.

Hey i didn't know you could wright down mental notes

Sorry couldn't resist.

I will say that i have had snakes that will only feed on live animals, so thats what they ate, i did feed them live birds instead of rodents to aviod most of those problems.

I have also raised 2 snakes in the same enclosure being fed in the same enclosure without any problems.
I do think that JM is pushing his luck with have a much larger snake in with a very small force fed snake.
It makes no sense to me because the little guy would probably start feeding alot better if he was kept in a click clack or some other small container where he can't see out and feels safe.
To me there would be no reason at all why that snake couldn't take thawed mice and probably would be on them now if it was kept on it's own in a small enclosure.

[junglemad]

Dug i tried the small click clack for 6 months mate, dead item tried for 2 hours a night and then thrown away, brained pinkies, dead skinks...that is why i was happy when he ate by himself after 10 months of trying.
I am sorry that it made me happy that my 'special' little boy ate on his own. In future I won't bother posting when something happens.

Oh i forgot to add, my Bredli did something interesting the other night too. It used its tail to attract prey much like i have seen Death Adders do. Not very interesting i suppose.

[pugsly]

Man this got out of hand. No reason to feed live, who are you kidding, if a snake wont eat anything and has to be force fed why not try it. Like I said what the hell is the difference between feeding live and smakin the mouse over the head with a brick.

If you have nothing nice to say, then dont bother posting, this site is just becoming full of it, people add things to posts and say " i dont post here because of stories like this" well guess what DONT POST! None of them post anything positive so why bother piping up when you want to have a go at someone, to make yourselves feel better about your own keeping!?

Junglemad has some good news after months of trying to get his little guy feeding, rather than having it put down, he gave it a chance, and what does everyone do? Im with rascal, the amoutn of people here who just want to pick a fight or think there awesome for putting someone else down astonishes me...

[rodentrancher]

Well, I had to feed our little MD guy Boof with live pinkies and velvets as he didn't eat all winter. He's not even half the size of the girl MD born in the same month. Now he'll eat defrosted or live, doesn't matter. I feed him defrosted velvet rats now, no probs. As long as they eat eh? Cheers

[Ramsayi]

You have two snakes that will only take live? The jungle and now the little coastal?

[pugsly]

Exactly, i cant believe he gives everyone some good news and the first thing people do is tell him off. if he has to start him off like that then so be it, tell me all those breeders out there how many have had to try a snake with a live pinky or fuzzy, most probably most. Maybe thats why none of thm have replies to this discussion. But yet everyone else who have a perfect record think that they are superior and carry on like primary school kids.

Grow up for gods sake.

[dugadugabowbow]

lmao your so funny pugsly :roll:

Plus you have probably hurt everyones feelings and made them think about the kind of people they are..........normal people :roll:

People can say something about the way he is doing things, thats what forums are for.

[Wrasse]

Hey, I am rapt, that Tangles is eating, it's great news, you can't deny that.

[basketcase]

i'd post a bunch of pics of snakes with their heads half missing (brains visible), ive even got one somewhere of a ball python that has been partially digesting by a boa constrictor.

but seeing as theyre all pretty gruesome i'll refrain.

sure, some people do things there own way but in my opinion there a few golden rules that you just shouldnt break. all i'll say is good husdandry is about minimising risks.

[Linus]

I was just thinking about this little guy the other day. Glad to hear he ate something unassisted mate. I think I'd do whatever it took to get a sick snake to eat. Anyone who wouldn't, in my mind is the irresponsible one.