they've hatched: Green Tree Pythons

Originally Posted by Morelia_Hunter

Pailsy bred them this year. GTPs are aseasonal, so seasons dont determine when they breed in the wild. There are clutches known for every month of the year. I dont think they are worth that much. I used to pay $75 each for them when i worked overseas. They will always only be worth this much to me. And by the way I would not trust those $5000 snakes they have up in Sydney!

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Is only a python

[stencorp69]

And by the way I would not trust those $5000 snakes they have up in Sydney!

What do you mean by that - do you mean that they aren't GTP or that they aren't real

[peterescue]

Is it just me or when these threads go on to long do does anyone else get the impression sometimes people dont really know what they are talking about
They make glib comments, unsubstaniated innuendo, and at times veiled accusations.

[URS]

And by the way I would not trust those $5000 snakes they have up in Sydney!

What do you mean by that - do you mean that they aren't GTP or that they aren't real[/quote]

This is a quota from another form that might help you understand, what to watch out for when purchasing them.

quote,GTP will be worth what ever the seller puts on them. the thing buyers need to do is be weary of which lines they buy and what the back ground of the parents/grandparents are. They are a few storys floating around of smuggled hatchie going to be put on the market as captive bred in australia. Just remember if you buy from this type of line and the **** hits the fan with the so called breeder you may lose yours as well. The first thing i would be asking for is proof of breeding.. eg pics of parents before/during after mating. Same females on eggs etc. then when ya go to pick up the babies you can match animals to photos.
Can tell ya right now if sombody has bred there greens the will have many pics of everystage. if they dont have pics to go with it i would be back peddling flat out 9500/10.000 was about what was expected to see for feeding hatchlings this year. Even with the posibility of a few being on offer i cant see the price comming down yet. quote,


I thought this was very well writen and thought out.
PS it was not my quote but I do agree with it.
Regards URS

[Morelia_Hunter]

That is why i say its only my opinion of course. I have been dealing with chondros long enough to know what origin specific GTPs look like. In any case, I dont have to defend myself. I was just defending someone who I know and respect, that actually had the guts to come out and advertise snakes that he actually bred and that I actually saw the females as thick as my arm and as gravid as can be. I have also seen the hatchlings. There are always people that try to bring other people into disripute. This hobby is bigger than just the individual!!! It should have ended a few pages earlier before people started questioning the legitamateness of these snakes.

[olivehydra]

I personally would never own a GTP, even as a gift, they just dont do it for me, there are other reptiles that I would prefer (some common some rare). Having said that I would like to pass on congratulations to any breeders of them because I think diversity in the hobby is a good thing. They have put in the hard yards and deserve any financial windful that may come their way. I think alot of people questioning the $10K price tag dont take into account the time, effort and more importantly the risky initial capital outlay these people have made. Just my thoughts.

[stencorp69]

This is a quota from another form that might help you understand, what to watch out for when purchasing them.

Thanks - I wasn't sure what point the comment was making - whether it was a scam like the website advert a few months back or whether they were imports or what

Sten

[moosenoose]

Originally Posted by Nome

and there's no way you'd get in anywhere at his place without getting caught.

....and then getting tossed in with his saltwater croc out the back

[boa]

They are the ultimate snake, at least in this country and worth a premium BUT in my opinion they are worth a maximum of $5000. They are not hard to keep, not particularly hard to breed and the hatchlings are only a little harder to rear than say Womas. Having said that if Roy or anyone else can sell them for $10,000 then good luck to them.
I would find it hard to part with 10 big ones for a hatchling/juvenile snake but what makes it harder for me is the memory of seeing them at UK reptile shows for around $750 and they don't fly out the door for that price.
I can only assume things will become a little more sensible in a couple of years especially after this years bumper crop.

[krusty]

all i have to say is well done roy and good luck
can't wait till i buy some of you.

[zulu]

Originally Posted by Morelia_Hunter

Pailsy bred them this year. GTPs are aseasonal, so seasons dont determine when they breed in the wild. There are clutches known for every month of the year. I dont think they are worth that much. I used to pay $75 each for them when i worked overseas. They will always only be worth this much to me. And by the way I would not trust those $5000 snakes they have up in Sydney!

Rare bit of imfo there,they are aseasonal you say thats interesting thanks MH. I dont think anyone here has said people have hatchlings from overseas did they? or did i miss something first couple of pages,its a struggle to get imfo theres too many that know that dont offer anything worthwhile.

[Vat69]

I may have alluded to such...not pointing any fingers of course, but I thought it was common knowledge that the majority of captive GTP's weren't native.
But I'm only regurgitating what I've been told. I'm yet to see proof of that.

[zulu]

There bred here alright Vat,Roys had the parents growing waiting for the day,he watchs them in his spare time counting 10,20,30,40 THousand etc etc He has fallen on hard times Oh well there will always be the rock he takes IOUS and stuff

[Vat69]

Oh, I'm quite aware that there are natives being bred here, what I said was that they are the minority
But like I said, its just word of mouth.