Victoria to consider child pet ban

[Magpie]

Contraceptives in the water and you need to do a course and get a licence to buy bottled water

[peterescue]

Originally Posted by Slateman

And I would build on this topic. Gowerment should charge small fee for farting. Something like 50c pe fart.
That can be defended as protecting our ozon layer. Boy that would cost me.

But It will happen one day.

You said it. Ive would have blown a lot of money just sitting here reading this thread.

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by michaelh

Slateman would you make parents liable for their kids farts?

Definately, what else mate. I would discount kids farts to 30 cents becaose they are smaler and ozon layer will get less damage.
Mabe if they fart in High pitch tune we can charge them more for noise polution.

Mooooore taxesss Mooore chargesss. Blooody fredom is not profitable.

[peterescue]

its moot anyway. the article says a ban on buying pets without parental permission.
In NSW now all the kids with herps have them because their mum is the license holder.
As to the financial deterrent. Garbage. You can have all the money in the world and still be a rubbish pet owner. Typical have and have not mentality. Poor people cant have pets because they are poor and are therefore must be bad pet owners. Thats a pretty pathetic rational.
Oh well. that my bit.

[Bryony]

i agree with you peteresue
its not fair to the people who arn't as 'well off'
they really should have an exam...if you fail = no pets for you!!!!
if you pass you can have a pet
if your pet isn't looked after proplerly instead of fines.....they can work in an animal refuge place as comunity service

i know a bit harsh but....some people need it....BAD

[Bryony]

i agree with you peteresue
its not fair to the people who arn't as 'well off'
they really should have an exam...if you fail = no pets for you!!!!
if you pass you can have a pet
if your pet isn't looked after proplerly instead of fines.....they can work in an animal refuge place as comunity service

i know a bit harsh but....some people need it....BAD

[BROWNS]

Yep well said pr,i think many people who may not be able to afford it would appreciate them even more...jmo

[bigguy]

Personally I think it sucks. What you are all failing to see is that slowly but surely we are losing our rights. The RSPCA wants more power , and they are gradually getting it. In the UK they are trying very hard to have the keeping of reptiles completely banned. If they get more and more power in this country than it will be only a matter of time till they try and ban reptiles here as well. And its not just the UK. There is a huge push underway now in the USA to ban keeping reptiles. Some counties and states in the USA have even tighter control now than we have in Australia, and its only going to get worse.

$100 licence fees for unsexed animals is just a waste of time. What they need to do in this country is to make it law that unless your cat or dog is a registered breeder, then they MUST be desexed. Problem solved instantly.

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by bigguy

Personally I think it sucks. What you are all failing to see is that slowly but surely we are losing our rights.

It is all about money. You will newer lose right to pay your taxes and fees to goverment bodies.

We do not have many civil liberties left anyway. They like to legistlate all activities for fee or some type of levy.

[spottedpython]

its a good and bad idea. good idea is that the children can't hurt the animals or give them away when they don't want them anymore. or just let them go in the wild or flush them down the toilet.bad idea is that children won't learn the resbonsebllity of looking after animals. and greg if humans didn't have children there would be no more of us left.

[HATCHMASTER]

Originally Posted by Slateman

And I would build on this topic. Gowerment should charge small fee for farting. Something like 50c pe fart.
That can be defended as protecting our ozon layer. Boy that would cost me.

But It will happen one day.

would this be tax deductable and would G.S.T aply

[Greg]

Originally Posted by bigguy

Some counties and states in the USA have even tighter control now than we have in Australia, and its only going to get worse.

Have ya's seen that show on the telly where the SPCA officers actually carry guns and handcuffs? Imagine arming the RSPCA inspectors here. What a joke.
Typical Yanks though.

[soulweaver]

Originally Posted by bigguy

Personally I think it sucks. What you are all failing to see is that slowly but surely we are losing our rights. The RSPCA wants more power , and they are gradually getting it. In the UK they are trying very hard to have the keeping of reptiles completely banned. If they get more and more power in this country than it will be only a matter of time till they try and ban reptiles here as well. And its not just the UK. There is a huge push underway now in the USA to ban keeping reptiles. Some counties and states in the USA have even tighter control now than we have in Australia, and its only going to get worse.

$100 licence fees for unsexed animals is just a waste of time. What they need to do in this country is to make it law that unless your cat or dog is a registered breeder, then they MUST be desexed. Problem solved instantly.

you raise a good point bigguy, problem is that not everyone registers their pet fullstop! therefore it will reduce numbers but can't stop it totally........dogs are a bit different harder to hide a dog.....

[zoe]

i agree with you peteresue
its not fair to the people who arn't as 'well off'
they really should have an exam...if you fail = no pets for you!!!!
if you pass you can have a pet

the exam is an awesome idea bryony! i think a $100 licence fee is a great idea too. sure it may not sound fair to people who arent as well off but if you can't afford $100 a year for a licence then how do you afford the $70 a year for a vaccination plus added costs for worming, flea control, food, desexing as a puppy/kitten etc etc, ALL of which should really be done as basic care for your pets anyway.

You can have all the money in the world and still be a rubbish pet owner.

true, but my experience at the vet has told me that the people who do have the money will spend it where needed on the things as mentioned above, where as the ones that dont obviously wont. i might have told this story before but we had a bloke come in to weigh his boxer once - the bloke smelt like he hadn't bathed in about a week - and when he put his dog on the scales it was about 10kg underweight. its spine and ribs were sticking out and looked disgusting. when i told him he said "oh so what i should feed it more?". i would bet my bottom dollar that this guy would not have bought the dog (he probably got it free somewhere anyway) if he had to pay any amount for a licence. and imo, harsh and even snobby as it may sound, the animals are way better off not being entrusted to the care of someone who clearly can't even take care of themselves. oh and of course, the dog wasnt desexed

[michaelh]

Slateman, what if we declared reptile keeping a religion, a la Hare Krishnas etc then we could opt out of taxes all together.

We could have some great initiation ceremony and worship reptiles.

We could fund ourselves by voluntary recognition of the Slateman fart and miscellaneous hot air contributions and life would be rosy.