Victoria to consider child pet ban

[Sdaji]

What big guy has said is very important. If the RSPCA had its way it would be illegal to keep reptiles, or any native animal in captivity (although I'm sure they wouldn't go too strict on birds). The RSPCA is really a hideous organisation which does a hell of a lot of harm and very little good.

This idea is pretty good, but it's scarey that the RSPCA is behind it, getting more power.

Zoe,
Just because they cant afford 100 dollars extra for a [edited] licence, doesnt mean they cant afford vet bills, vaccinations etc.. What if all up all they could afford was an extra 100 bucks? Would you rather run the risk of the animal getting sick, and dying by paying 100 bucks for a licence? No animal lover could want that. I know a few families that in total, bring in 500 bucks a week BEFORE tax, and they have up to four kids, yet they ALWAYS manage to pay the vet bills, and properly care for their dogs.

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by michaelh

Slateman, what if we declared reptile keeping a religion, a la Hare Krishnas etc then we could opt out of taxes all together.

We could have some great initiation ceremony and worship reptiles.

We could fund ourselves by voluntary recognition of the Slateman fart and miscellaneous hot air contributions and life would be rosy.

That religion would include snake holding in church. I personaly do that few times a day. You all know that toilet is my church. I am so religios.

But I am sure that they will come with some type of licence fee for holding the snake in church too.

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by zoe

the exam is an awesome idea bryony! i think a $100 licence fee is a great idea too. sure it may not sound fair to people who arent as well off but if you can't afford $100 a year for a licence then how do you afford the $70 a year for a vaccination plus added costs for worming, flea control, food, desexing as a puppy/kitten etc etc, ALL of which should really be done as basic care for your pets anyway.

I don't understand the logic. If you pay $100 to goverment you are better to keep pet?
We should licence children like Greg said. Child cost close to milion dolars to bring up to adult age today, so goverment should introduce licence fee $1000000 to all parents? Becaose if they can't afford that how they will pay for the other costs?

Just leave people along and reinforce existing laws instead, if crulety is involved.
By licencing everything and collecting more and more money from people, you do not fix the problem.
Bad people find the way around as allways, and good people just end up paying more for byrocracy of goverment usles organisations.
Did you noticed people that they are always happy to do something about it only if they can justyfied to colect some financial revenue and get some profit?

[zoe]

I don't understand the logic. If you pay $100 to goverment you are better to keep pet?

its not a matter of who you're paying it to, its the fact than you CAN afford to pay it - its like $1 every 3 days or something to get $100 a year and i really dont think that there's many people out there that cant afford 30 cents a day. its more a matter of weeding out the people that aren't willing to do the best they can for their pets - or even the LEAST they can for ther pets. i hate to be harsh but im trying to get my point across - i have seen a lot of complete drop kicks come into the vet with their underfed, flea ridden animals that they got free from their buddy who didnt bother desexing their pet, and you try and explain to them basic health care such as how to properly FEED them and they ignore you and walk out half the time. if a $100 licencing fee prevented those people from owning pets then i would be a very happy lady. i'm not saying poor people can't own pets (i myself am not very well off) because i have seen MANY families that aren't very well off put EVERYTHING they can into looking after their pets. those people would happily pay the fee. the bottom line that i'm trying to get across is that most people that would be willing to pay the $100 would be willing to get their pets desexed.

Just because they cant afford 100 dollars extra for a [edited] licence, doesnt mean they cant afford vet bills, vaccinations etc.. What if all up all they could afford was an extra 100 bucks?

and what if their animal gets sick? where does that money come from? if you dont have emergency money available to take care of your animal if it gets sick (and i know people that have had $1000 and over vet bills) then i dont think you should have an animal. is it fair that the pet gets euthanased because you cant afford it to have minor surgery? i'm not saying anything against you brodie because i know you're one of the best pet owners around who would do anything needed for your animals .

if you dont have emergency money available to take care of your animal if it gets sick (and i know people that have had $1000 and over vet bills) then i dont think you should have an animal

Do you have over 1000 for each of your animals Zo? I bet you dont. What if they all got really really sick on the same day If you dont, well according to what you just stated, your not a responsible pet owner

[Slateman]

I know what you mean Zoe. But money should not be taken from people for everything they do.

[zoe]

Do you have over 1000 for each of your animals Zo?

what are the odds of all of your animals getting so sick they all need surgery at the same time lol. let's not go overboard hey...

I know what you mean Zoe. But money should not be taken from people for everything they do.

i agree. but when it comes to taking care of a living being then i think it should be. but hey thats just me . i'm done trying to make my point now lol

What if there was a fire zo? and your your animals were severly burnt?? You should be prepared for the worst.

How many people ya rekon anticipate their animal getting so sick they have to pay over 1grand?

[peterescue]

Ok Zoe. I give up. Only rich people should have rights. Money is the passport to everything. poor people who dont have the money for any possible emergency should be executed now for being parasites and a drain on the finances of the well to do.
Hang on. You dont have the emergency money if all your animals get sick at once. Give them up now before its to late. You made your point and I think less of you for it. (not really)

[africancichlidau]

Now, if I was President..........

[Fuscus]

Boy, do I know how to start a fight

[moosenoose]

Then on the other hand we have the sicko's who leave their millions to their pet poodle and starve their kids. IMO you need a license for both, including demerit points for bad behaviour! :wink:

I agree with licenses for all animals - I think rodents like rats & rabbits & ferrets etc might be a bit over the top though, but here are the ones we should seriously be looking to contain, as they are generally the ones people get bored with. They start off small & cute & then turn out to be more work than they know what to do with! So guess what? - they let em go!

The trouble is imagine sending in the report each year for your snakes diet if you bred your own rabbits & rats etc, not to mention selling them to other snake keepers! They wouldn't know if it was for food, how many you bred or even if one had escaped! The next thing they'll require is for you to keep the snake stools, only to have pay some chemist, via more fees from the keeper, to poke through those stools & add up it's diet! It's beauocracy gone mad! ..oh.. and perhaps I've had a few too many beers & my imagination is in overdrive.....sorry all!

[zoe]

Ok Zoe. I give up. Only rich people should have rights. Money is the passport to everything. poor people who dont have the money for any possible emergency should be executed now for being parasites and a drain on the finances of the well to do.
Hang on. You dont have the emergency money if all your animals get sick at once. Give them up now before its to late. You made your point and I think less of you for it. (not really)

geez man dont get ya knickers in a knot :roll: . i luv how everyone ignores the part where i said i know a lot of people who dont have a lot of money that take VERY good care of their pets. maybe read the whole thing? or read it twice... :roll:

[moosenoose]

Geez, that fat flamin' hippo is giving me the irrates! &^%&^% 7^%&^%!!!!!!!!