Who records eggs ?

[hornet]

i put "what are eggs" simply because i have never really bred anything

[tan]

I spoke to our local ranger about this and he said you don't need to record them until they hatch IF they are maternally incubated, HOWEVER, if you take them from her and artificially incubate, you must record them in your book. Then you make another entry when they hatch.

[boa]

Yeah that's what it says in the regs but it would seem most do it their own way which seems far more sensible.

[Rennie]

Originally Posted by hornet

i put "what are eggs" simply because i have never really bred anything

Same, I've never bred (except rodents & roaches ) and also I'm in NSW so we don't have to record eggs anyway.

[Sdaji]

In Victoria you're breaking the law if you don't enter eggs into your book within 24 hours of them being laid - you even need to say where they are, so if they're put into the incubator, in your book it says they're in the incubator, etc. If they don't hatch they need to be written up as deaths. Frog eggs don't need to be counted, but you need to enter something like "egg mass produced" into your record book, and record the number of froglets at the time that they have four legs.

I assume you're talking about QLD people, and having never bred anything in QLD I voted for What are eggs? so as not to upset the balance in the 'proper' section of the poll. In Victoria I've always recorded the eggs, which has been quite a task at times! There are good arguments for and against having this requirement. I'm sure you guys can bash each other up over them For me, it has been a legal necessity, so I've done it.

[ponybug]

Originally Posted by Sdaji

In Victoria you're breaking the law if you don't enter eggs into your book within 24 hours of them being laid - you even need to say where they are, so if they're put into the incubator, in your book it says they're in the incubator, etc. If they don't hatch they need to be written up as deaths. Frog eggs don't need to be counted, but you need to enter something like "egg mass produced" into your record book, and record the number of froglets at the time that they have four legs.

I assume you're talking about QLD people, and having never bred anything in QLD I voted for What are eggs? so as not to upset the balance in the 'proper' section of the poll. In Victoria I've always recorded the eggs, which has been quite a task at times! There are good arguments for and against having this requirement. I'm sure you guys can bash each other up over them For me, it has been a legal necessity, so I've done it.

thats the same as qld, if you don't you are breaking the law, it's that simple, seems a big deal is made out of other rules like breeding hybrids, feeding live rodents, taking wild reptiles, but something like this is made out like it's no big deal,

think about it.....................

breaking the law is breaking the law, no matter how you want to look at it,

[nvenm8]

I asked that very question to the parks and wildlife officer when i was being inspected not so long ago. Firstly he looked at me as if i had a square head, then said he only cares for the living not the maybes?
But if you record them? what harm is there? just a little writers cramp! At least you will only be guilty of doing too much paperwork.

[Chrisreptile]

Originally Posted by junglemad

don't count your chickens until they've hatched

couldnt of put it better.

[waruikazi]

I recorded all of my eggs that went to full term, because i needed to do my return. But some of them died before leaving the eggs. SO from now on i will only be counting the little wriggly things.

[JasonL]

Ha, try counting frog spawn! 2932, 2933, Gee I don't even count the morphs!, All reptiles I count at around one week of age.

[nvenm8]

After a long chat with npws here is the low down on egg records. This is an except from the licensing conditions below. Basically YES if you artificially incubate the eggs they must be recorded in your record books as soon as they are removed from the mother. For those that think logically and wonder why?? a reason for this is there is potential for trade in eggs eg:- if you don't have an incubator and someone else incubates the eggs for you.
A fairly weak reason i believe, but them there's the rules! Page 6 if you want the whole deal.
http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publicatio...fe_licence.pdf


To keep your record book up-to-date you must record the following information in your record book by the end of the day specified below:
• if you buy, give away, sell or accept an animal — the day on which the transaction occurred;
• if you breed an animal and it is raised by its parent — the day the animal becomes independent of its parent;
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Guideline
Keeping wildlife privately in Queensland — Conditions and restrictions —
Keeping and using controlled, commercial, recreational, restricted or
international animals under a recreational wildlife licence
• if you breed an animal and it is separated from its parent for hand-raising or artificial incubation — the day the animal is removed from its parent for hand-raising or artificial incubation; or
• if an animal escapes, dies or is stolen — the day you become aware of the escape, death or theft of the animal.
It is difficult to count frog and toad eggs, as amphibians often lay large numbers of eggs that can be damaged by rough handling. If you keep and breed amphibians under your licence, you should make the entry in your record book about natural increase once the eggs become tadpoles.

[Rennie]

Originally Posted by Chrisreptile

couldnt of put it better.

I could, don't count your herps until they hatch

Even counting tadpoles would be pretty hard I would've thought.

[MoreliaMatt]

i believe they are just bringing in the need to record eggs in SA now....
just what i have heard (im yet to receive my return paperwork)