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27-Jan-07, 02:01 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Melbourne Age: 24 | | | |
nice, BIG enclosure, u getting an adult?
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27-Jan-07, 02:10 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: NSW Age: 32 | | | |
Nope...a bubby..is it too big for a bubby? It will grow big..
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27-Jan-07, 02:13 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Melbourne Age: 24 | | | |
what are the dimensions? a hatchie u can keep in a plastic "click clack" container until it gets bigger, if the snake is small for the enclosure make sure there are pklenty of hides
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27-Jan-07, 02:15 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: NSW Age: 32 | | | |
I am going to get more stuff in their, hidie holes ,branches, plants, etc
Inside dimensions are 7ft long, 3ft high and 2ft wide.
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27-Jan-07, 02:22 PM
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looks like a great enclosure, but u would lose a hatchie inside it
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27-Jan-07, 02:27 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: NSW Age: 32 | | | |
That's the idea, give her loads of room to roam around and hide..hehehehe...I won't loose her totally, she will be in there somewhere....She won't get scared will she?
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27-Jan-07, 02:38 PM
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hatchies feel vulnerable in big open spaces, if u provide plenty of cover it might be ok, hopefully a more experienced person could advise u on this | 
27-Jan-07, 02:41 PM
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I don't want to make her feel vulnerable.. Loads more hidie homes for sure then. Where I live you cannot just go and buy smaller enclosures etc...So she will have to hopefully like her new home. I will try my best to make it comfy for her.
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27-Jan-07, 03:39 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Sydney Age: 44 | | |
The thing to remember with a snake is that it is not a person. Think of yourself in a big paddock back when T Rex roamed the land. You would be scared crapless if you were out in a big open space. Well, that is exactly how your agrophobic precious will feel in that great big cage. Regardless of the number of hides I personally feel that you will have a stressed out snake that will be a difficult feeder. Click clacks will seem like a cruel option to most of your non herping friends because of how small they are. Your snake, however, will feel much more comfortable.
Of course, your cage is spectacular for an adult and it is a credit to you. But please dont use it for a hatchie.
As for walnut shell. I have never used it so I can't speak from personal experience. But have a a look at this web site: http://www.reptilesdownunder.com/rep.../substrate.php Unfortunately there is no author credited so this could be written by a year 6 mammal fanatic. So take it how you will.
There are great people in your area as well so join your local herp society. You will get all the answers you need there. WE are all meetign up again on Feb 10th.
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27-Jan-07, 03:49 PM
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Great enclosure way too big for a hatchie tho u will have to wait a while till it grows big enough.
goodluck
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27-Jan-07, 04:01 PM
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Hi peter
what you said makes perfect sense...A click clack set up sounds the go....
Thank you for your imput... I was looking on ebay and found a person that sells click clack set ups, would they be ok? not sure if you have seen them or not, but they look good enough. How long do you keep a hatchie in a click clack type of container? Until what age/lenght?
I am only a newbie to reptile keeping so all advice is appreciated. I did have a carpet python 12 years ago and all went 100% until we moved back to Tassie and I had to sell.
Any tips on heat control? we live in a hot climate, mind you today is a great day only 32..yippee..but we often get into the 40"s....Is heat hard to control in a click clack, that is what I am trying to mean..Would I be better off not having a heat mat during the day and just the night when it gets down to the 20's?
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27-Jan-07, 04:12 PM
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You can set up yoru click clacks very cheaply. If you have high temps then get a probe thermostat or don't use them in summer. You just need a low wattage ehat mat.
Kepp your snake in a little one for about 9 months if you feed him/her weekly. Or to about 50coms. Then get a slightly bigger one. At about 80cms get a 40 litre one and when he grows out of that (about 18months to 2 years) he will be right to go in to your big cage.
Dont handle too often. Try to only handle when feeding and cleaning. More often and we are back to the stressy thing. He is not a dog after all. and if he is not stressed then he doesn't need to bite. Just a hint.
Here is a pic of two hatchy diamonds O got last March. The other cage is the one they have just this week moved in to. You dont need to make a cage like this. In fact, a larger tub would defintely be better from the snakes perspective.
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27-Jan-07, 04:33 PM
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Thak you Peter for all your help.
Here I was about to put a bubby hatchling into that monster.
We have a local vet here, she just so happens to have a Diamond, when she returns from her holidays I will be using her knowledge on heating etc also.
A question for you though.....About me, am I better off to get a hatchling or do you personally think I should get a yearling? seeing this is my first python? well second, I had one 12 years ago..
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28-Jan-07, 09:17 AM
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Personally I think you are better getting a yearling. That way the snake is established and you will have an idea of its personality. People will tell you that one species is quiet and another is snappy. That is crap (except maybe for jungles and scrubbies but again I know people with quiet animals of both those species). There are quiet and snappy in ALL species. Find a yearling with a pleasant disposition and a good feeding record
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28-Jan-07, 12:48 PM
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I am looking at a purchasing a young snake in the near future and only recently came across the same recommendation that a click-clack type container would be best...
I don't mean to hijack the thread but thought it might be useful to both of us...
How do you go about heating etc a click-clack for a young snake? Peter I notice you have a heat mat, does that need to be regulated with a thermostat or is a low wattage suitable?
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